Beginning January 2016, subsequent character and scene development is continued in the blog, A Brick at a Time.

 

 

12-23-15

Hello Bob,
I try to change the sketch according to your comments, but there are some contradictions. To show the jumberellos floating necessary to depict them in motion. I did that. You would think that they fly, but how to show differently a floating movement? At the same time they are in the sky, but do not fly. To appease the "chaos" I am deleting those creatures which move in the opposite direction, although you mentioned earlier that they must move in different directions.
Ruslan

Dec 26


Greetings Ruslan...

Language is such a fickle lady...I surely try your patience, know it and regret it...

I am attaching some images which show a sense of motion - When I say floating, I am thinking of these illustrations and the images I am trying to convey to you. I really like the wallpaper attachment. It shows dimension, motion, is striking, and it has spacing for the other necessary parts of the book cover...

Flying vs Floating

Both flying and floating denote an object in suspension. In particular, flying is a term closely associated in aviation or air travel. It is often used in instances of movement or suspension in the air or the atmosphere. Flying also denotes movement and direction of mechanisms like airplanes and other aircraft. Flying happens when the aircraft is supported by a mechanism (a wing, in this instance) and with a high pressure under the wing and a lower pressure on its top.

In terms of speed, flying can be in either high or low speed. Direction can also refer to any point of geographical markers like north, south, east, and west.

On the other hand, “floating” is a word associated with water or any kind of fluid. Any object that is in suspension in water is expressed as a floating object. This can apply to many objects;vehicles like ships or boats or even human or other material objects like balls and other dense objects. It is also used as a term to describe suspension in outer space or any space without the presence of gravity. “Density” and “buoyancy” are common properties for objects in relation to floating and water. When used in the context of outer space, the term “weightless” is more appropriate.

Like flying, floating also denotes movement but in a non-specific direction. Floating also denotes a slow movement without any indication or control. In this respect, the word is akin to drifting or wandering but on water.

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 Ruslan requested that his emails be deleted. Mine remain to document the development process.  Then Ruslan went on vacation...then had work with other clients...then my business got really busy...now here we are at Chrismas

 



August 13, 2015

Dear Ruslan,
This is the best one yet. I think its lace is still a bit cluttered, but I like its sense of some motion.
I have no idea how this drawing will look in BW or Sepia - perhaps it will only look good in color. My concern with the final version - color - is will the lace look light and sheer - almost translucent, yet colored. In the images thus far, you are not able to show that...this is comment not critisizm. Also, the creatures cannot be of similar sense of motion with their sheer fins or what ever...perhaps some are turning one way or another...floating down - the lace would flow outward. Forgive me if I sound like I am talking down to you.

In any event, I still like the lace of the creature in this attachment - I am attaching now. Perhaps less is more? Perhaps this design could convey more motion variation and grace. Colors could vary - from creature to creature and hopefully morph from one color to the next within the lace fins.
It is the blue ones that I am speaking about. and you do not need to use the pilot in the image


-Bob

 




August 13, 2015


Ruslan- It has lace but no dimension. It looks like a cylinder.


-Bob






August 11, 2015

 

Greetings Ruslan,
Please save this link, but first check out the guy next to the lion. Take note of the face on that creature....one of my characters is a manticore and I want his face to look that vicious. We can do the character later, but I almost lost this link.
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1fi6Ey/:1Z7cB4aBq:h11IVBu-/social.thechive.com/2015/07/28/didnt-see-that-coming-12-gifs-4



-Bob


August 10, 2015


Ruslan-The logo is fine. I need to spend some time on the jumberello doing a better job explaining them.


-Bob









August 7, 2015


Ruslan- I like the original design in the corner of the map. I think if you use that and come up with a suitable border, even the border that is used around the frame of that map, that will be sufficient. If you can think of a better border that's good too. It should be the same color as the image in the map. Regarding the John Borello, I would like these shaped so that they are lenses shaped, but flat on the bottom and a slight borrow or convection on top. Instead of streamers or tubules hanging Beneath them envision concentric circles of sheer lace. The outer fringes of lace along its edges might be 1 foot in length. This is a short curtain of lace. Then as ones eyes moves toward the center of the lense there is another ring or curtain, circular curtain of lace that might be 2 feet in length. As you move toward the center there would be smaller concentric circles of lace but each curtain would be longer in length. In the very center there could be a sheer lace type hanging or some sort of hanging that might act as a rudder. The curtains need not hang stiffly Buckhead flyer out at different angles as a pendant in the breeze might.


-Bob





August 7, 2015

Sketches to the Jumberello at night.





August 7, 2015


Ruslan- Let me look at this a bit...please resubmit the logo image. I have not seen it.


-Bob












August 3, 2015


Ruslan- My wife wants to frame a couple of the pieces that you did for me. The print I need to fit the frame is 12 x 16. Do you have any advice? This doesn't appear to be a standard frame.


-Bob







August 1, 2015

Dear Ruslan, I will have the next scene to you by the end of the weekend. It will be used for the dust jacket of a 6 x 9" book.



-Bob


 





July 30, 2015


Ruslan- love it!!!


-Bob









July 21, 2015


Ruslan-

"Kiss my tail and pray I don't move it" Toto
Whatever you can do Ruslan, you have good sense.

Love, I find, is like singing. Everybody can do enough to satisfy themselves, though it may not impress the neighbors as being very much. - Zora Neale Hurston




-Bob




July 21, 2015

Dear Bob,  It is good that the number of words was reduced, but it looks strange, because the words are near the head of Dorothy. The place and sense of the text violates a little the drama of the scene. It is attached. I am working on the color, but have to finish some urgent things and it will take a couple of days.


Ruslan






July 18, 2015


Ruslan- If it looks like crap I will pass it on rather than hurt his feelings.

Also, I wanted to rearrange the text as indicated in the the attachment. Pardon the sloppiness. I also left off a couple of words.


-Bob







July 17, 2015



Ruslan- OK...Make it vibrant and crisp colors

Do not do the logo - I am getting Christian the guy who created it to do it.

- Bob



 

 







July 15, 2015


Ruslan- "All will know by the burn of my Kiss, the Kiss of the Good, Good...Northern Witch that I stand beside you." - Witch Dialog "You can KISS my tail and pray I don't move it!" - Toto's Dialog



-Bob



July 15, 2015


Ruslan- Both of these look great! What about the text If you want to try a sample with text from dog and witch and another just from the witch - I will compare. I hate to mess with these images but we have been doing text and without it, It looses something - excellent workmanship, Ruslan.


-Bob




July 14, 2015

Dear Bob,  Please see the attached drawing. I did so that the silhouettes of characters stand out against the forest background. Hope you will like it. The munchkin closest the witch - I decided to make so that his eyebrows worked more. This fase expression is best suited for a given position. I tried to do puckered lips, but it looked ridiculous in this position. Excessive curvature of the lips leads to grimace. I said before, but I want to repeat that excessive corrugation, bulging of facial looks comical and does not meet the chosen style.


Best regards, Ruslan







July 8, 2015


Ruslan- OK - do your idea. Ignore the Gifs, I am not sure what they are and do not appear as attachments to any sent emails.. I am not picky on the colors as long as they are rich-vivid


-Bob


July 8, 2015


Dear Bob,
I can not open 3 gifs, which you attached. There are strange small square objects.
Regarding blue. I can do it, but I am against this. It would be better to do colored people's clothes, using purple, blue, yellow, red, green and others. It is better not to do the skin blue.
Need to make these characters in color separately, before working on the color illustration how I did all the characters earlier. I would make it after completing the drawing and sepia.
Ruslan



July 8, 2015

Dear Ruslan, Here is something I wrote in my book. What do you think about different shades of blue? Blue skin? I really hope this one can pop with bright vivid colors. If I need to change the text in the book I can. xxI looked up to find a group of blue people walking toward us. Everything about them was blue. Both men and women of about the same size wore blue boots, hats, pants, shirts, and overalls. Blue, perhaps, tinted their skin; they were too far to say for sure.



-Bob


July 7, 2015


Ruslan- Thanks - I have no idea why you were not getting my emails. I did not hold up the money because of this, I held up the money to get your attention...it took four emails. Again. You did a wonderful job with the sketch and continue to excel on this project

-Bob


July 7, 2015

Bob,
Yes, I will make a pained expression on Dorothy's face. Munchkin closest the witch will be with puckered lips and a painful smile.

All the micro nuances will be created in the large drawing. In the meantime, you can pay the bill for the sketch. I did everything possible adjustments in the sketch.

Ruslan



July 7, 2015


Ruslan- What are your thoughts of putting a more pained look on Dorothy face. Can you have her pulling her hand from her head and looking at it with a pained shocked expression.
Finally - the munchkin closest the witch - can you give him an equally expressive face using one of the other emotions I was trying to convey in my image batches? Like "Ouch - followed by puckered lips and a painful smile - or amused shock or amused surprise with some hand gestures

-Bob



July 7, 2015

Hi Bob,

Please let me know what you want to change to Dorothy and the one munchkin, because I am working on the drawing and it is important to know that now, otherwise it will be hard to change something later. Only it should be within the composition and current angles of the characters so that not to break the technology. This is especially applies to the face of Dorothy. Although it is not desirable to change anything, because all looks holistically. I also want to add that excessive rolling eyes, wrinkled face, and so on turns a face to a grimace and it looks unnatural and comical.

Thanks, Ruslan








July 6, 2015


Ruslan- This will be the third email on this matter It is highlighted in yellow and pertains to dorothy and the one munchkin. Acknowledge that you will work on this in the final or before


-Bob




 



July 6, 2015

Greetings Ruslan, Not sure if you saw the comments from my last email... See below. Also - If I did not pay for the witch, yes, you may bill me. If I did pay, then what is the $ for?


-Bob




July 3, 2015

Hi Bob, I changed the gaze of the witch and the munchkin closest the witch. But I think do too wrinkled munchkin's face is not desirable, because there are too many grimaces in this scene, almost all. Yes, I am able to create the logo. This must be done originally and fancifully. I will make a sketch first and after your approval will create original image. Thanks, Ruslan





July 3, 2015


Ruslan- I REALLY like it. The left munchkin is incredible! As is the witch's face. Both of these have the expressiveness I had hoped for. However...as usual, I have concerns... Are you able to change the gaze of the witch without the expression so that she is looking at Dorothy? This is where she would be looking in light of the text for this scene. What are your thoughts of putting a more pained look on her face? Her expression is very good - very sad - I know I am picky and I am asking for your consideration rather than demanding results Finally - the munchkin closest the witch - can you give him an equally expressive face using one of the other emotions I was trying to convey in my image batches? Like "Ouch - followed by puckered lips and a painful smile - or outright shock. I love the picture. Great job.

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I am in need of a logo. I am thinking that the "OZ" in the upper left corner of the map would be perfect without the "Western" From the art provided by Christian, are you able to provide me with an image of just "OZ"?

-Bob


July 2, 2015

Hi Bob, I made the Munchkins faces so that it is consistent with the composition and the interaction of the characters. I decided to do that in the sketch before working on the drawing, because it is hard to change such things in the drawing. Also I changed Witch's face.

Hope you will like it. Ruslan





July 2, 2015


Ruslan- OK - you do not need to change expressions in the sketch, but I will be picky in the final images. I will go with your comment. Refer back to the image that you modeled the witch on. It is that kind of apparent and exaggerated devious expression I am looking for in the scene - or perhaps a cunning viciousness. sorry but I will not know the final product until you create it.

-Bob




July 1, 2015

Dear Bob, Glad you liked the composition as a whole. It was important to show the dynamics of gestures and the interaction of the characters. In sketch impossible to show all the emotional nuances. This can be done in the detailed drawing. But I'll do another sketch to clarify expressions of the munchkins. I think, it is not desirable to show two munchkins looking at each other, otherwise the culmination of the scene will be lost. Regarding the Dorothy and Witch. I specifically depicted the Witch with a tilted head down, and Dorothy with her head thrown back to emphasize the dynamics of the scene. I would not want to change it. The whole composition is subtly built, I can only change facial expressions.

Hope for your understanding, Ruslan





July 1, 2015


Ruslan- Munchkin 2. Image wide-eyed almost catches what I am trying for. It is wide-eyed amusement. Take the wide eyes and tickled look from the other images. Tickled-ex will give you an idea of exaggerated features but this is a bit over the top.

I suggest that these two munchkins stare at each other rather than Dorothy: Glasses image can be one character - I think the face is perfect with the glasses and age. That character can be looking at the other Munchkin. The other character, the 4th munchkin can be some combination or the remaining images (shocked). I like the hands to the face for effect. Give me a day or two on Dorothy and the witch. I envisioned the witch holding Dorothy's shoulders from the front, Dorothy looking toward the viewer and down, a look of wincing pain. The way you did it opens the image up. I just have to think about Dorothy and the witches face. It is very close. Good job.


-Bob














July 1, 2015


Ruslan- This is very good and close, Ruslan. I am going to send you facial expressions for the munchkins. Each email will have as many as four image of a particular look, expression. You can combine all four, but I would like them to be exaggerated - in that whatever emotion they are showing, really stands out. The first expression is confused, bewildered, contemplative...


- Bob







June 30, 2015

Dear Bob,  I made the sketch. I have tried to portray the Munchkins so that to show their faces. Hope it will work.

Best regards, Ruslan






June 29, 2015


Ruslan, Thank you! Please proceed.

-Bob



June 29, 2015

Ruslan- Sorry - the last map - I asked you to center Witch under "Eye O' The" - did you get that and make the change?


-Bob




 






June 26, 2015


Ruslan- I do like the Witch - you nailed it. Great job.

I like the candle glow, but perhaps you misunderstood my comment about the candle. I do not think the candle and its circular base should be the same color as the table. Yellowed, dirty, green, whatever, something other than leaving the candle looking like it is part of the table. Overall it is excellent. I think I am being nit picky but then I say to myself, why does this keep bothering me. Here is a link to some candles that are colored. Color will not hamper this scene. google images

https://www.google.com/search?q=images+of+candles+burning&espv=2&biw=1440&bih=839&tbm=isch&imgil=tcgAdMmu4RicCM%253A%253BPy2-dYOnWuBZHM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.stubbornmule.net%25252F2009%25252F03%25252Fburning-candles%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=tcgAdMmu4RicCM%253A%252CPy2-dYOnWuBZHM%252C_&usg=__Nr8WuPkirvYPi8gfXeXAYDl0hPI%3D&ved=0CDcQyjc&ei=JbONVa68N4j1-AH0mIDYAw#imgrc=tcgAdMmu4RicCM%3A&usg=__Nr8WuPkirvYPi8gfXeXAYDl0hPI%3D


-Bob


June 26, 2015

Dear Bob, I uploaded the map into Dropbox and attached the changed Witch and color scene. I made the distant candle with colder tinge, and the near candle - warmer to show the depth of space. Hope you will like it.
Best regards, Ruslan







June 25, 2015

Ruslan- Can you add a little color to the candle as it is the same color as the table. There is a border around it on the table..that could have a different color or hue and and the candle glow could have a bit of red. Other than that it is perfect. I like what you did with the metal man - very good.

-Bob




June 25, 2015

Ruslan, the witch is excellent. And very close. I mean VERY close. take a look at the attachment.
Notice how there is a certain malevolence and radiant evil in the smile of the attachment? Anyone looking at this image, knows that her big smile is not one of kindness but hidden meaning.This is what I need for the Witch
If you look at the witch now, she has enough features to pass for the attachment, but lacks that little piece that makes the viewer say, "beware".
I really do like her. I know you can pull this off.


-Bob



June 23, 2015

Dear Bob,
1. Map. I added a vortex with lightning and uploaded the map into Dropbox. Hope you will like it and the map is already completed.

2. Stamp. Okay, I attached the sample how the print will look without stamp, only with the signature and number.

3. Previous color scene. Is everything okay with that?

4. New drawings.
Glad you liked the Munchkins. Of course, I'm going to show emotions in the scene.

I made a new image of the Witch . It is attached. Hope you will like it.


Best regards, Ruslan






June 23, 2015

Ruslan- I think more people will want posters with it. I thought it was a very nice touch to add to each print, It made it seem that folks were getting something extra for free...now I find it is not free. So forget it.


-Bob



June 23, 2015

Ruslan- The Vortex should be in the Outlands.
I sent my comments about the witch and munchkins
Yes please finish the map.
-Bob



 






June 23, 2015

This is no help, Ruslan. My questionsin this email pertains only to the stamp. We will deal with only with this subject, You're stamp, until I understand it. I have asked that you explain it sufficient away so as to explain its value to the art patron. Please do this.,
Next question,where does it go on the limited-edition print? Next question, and exactly what is it? Is it your logo or something like a logo?
Next question, what size is the stamp?
I will need to put your design in my kick starter fundraiser. When will you be able to provide the image that you will be using.? I will ask my other questions about the remaining topics in this email once we are done with this subject. I appreciate your patience but none of this is of value if I cannot explain it properly. To do that I must understand It.


-Bob




June 22, 2015

Dear Bob, 

Stamp. It will be an original hand made stamping. Author's logo.
Variant # 3 of CD cover - with different art, including original design of the envelope and printing - $ for 100 pieces ($ per a envelope). All of the following hundreds - $ (per a envelope) Shipping will be the same $0 for 100 pieces. I would sign the cover of the CD (envelope).
Of course, it would be better if I will do the book covers. Let's get back to them later. I think it will be a reasonable price.
I made and attached sketches to the images of the Witch and Munchkins. Hope you will like it.
I am waiting for you to identify where the vortex should be shown on the map. Thanks, Ruslan





June 22, 2015

Dear Ruslan, I have to do a mock up of the books that I am offering. I am not sure it this interests you, but if it does, you can quote me a price. Paperback... It will have the book cover that you designed with the Tornado. "The Wizard Was Odd". The Author, "PEEKY", can be on the spine. When you flip the book over, the backcover will become the front cover of book two, "So Toto, How is Dorothy?" I have an idea for the back cover...What do you think about using the Logo in the Map, the combined or overlay OZ in the upper left corner. We could leaveit with Western because that is what the second book is about, or remove the "Western" from the logo? __________________________________________ Book 1 and 2 Hardbacks - one printing will be black or midnight blue cover with a leather grain for book 1 and 2. I am attaching an image of the grain and color There will be an additional printing of both volumes will be a mahogany color with a linen finish. (http://www.lbsbind.com/book_cloth_cover_materials/arrestox_b-cloth.php ) Both the black volumes and the burgundy volumes will be stamped with gold foil. Book One - "The Wizard Was Odd" and Author "Peeky". Book Two - "So Toto, How is Dorothy?" and Author "Peeky". These books will also have a color dust Jacket. Book one will be use the cover art you designed with the Tornado. The other for book two has not been created, but it will be one of the scenes

-Bob






 




June 21, 2015

Ruslan,

Attached please find the cloak and witch's face. I do not understand your stamp. Can you write something that I can put in Kickstarter to explain exactly what you are doing AND WHAT MAKES IT SPECIAL. If you were trying to sell this to someone, what would you say to make them want it. This is what I need. Something describing the trouble you have gone through and its value so that they want it. OK firm me up a price for Variant #3 - with the same art as the CD and perhaps a price with different art. And shipping What will you sign and number - will it be the CD or the cover that you sign? FYI - I intend to offer various images and drafts of characters and images that you have created for a slideshow on a desktop. The CD will also include an epub and mobi ( possibly PDF) of the story. Thanks Ruslan!

-Bob








June 21, 2015

Ruslan- Thanks! Happy Father's Day (if u r not, then pass it on to your Dad) Thanks for working with me on the munchkin faces. The prices are fine. Be sure to use the witch face to the extent that you can. Also, on the munchkin faces, you can get by with some really basic sketches to get their facial features down. U probably know that.... On the wood engravings - explain exactly what you propose to do with them for your Wizard art - perhaps I misunderstood and thought it was a small stamp on the border. Is it an actual piece of paper that we could fill in with limited edition art, your signature, and other details collectors like? Kind of like a bookplate? On the CD's - give me a ball park on shipping to Tampa Fl. Also, you would design cover art befitting the story? So $ plus shipping - or the total for 100 if I misunderstand you...
On the CDs - you could sign and number also, correct?


I am attaching a cloak for the witch. We are changing the color to black - You can also suggest some other (brilliant) color if it would add to the scene. I attach a purple to show an alternative color.If u google cloaks - there are many styles and colors, but I like this style as it is imposing...more austere.
Munchkins - I am attaching two photos. Make the little folk bright and colorful with more blue in their clothing than other colors. I suggest two men and on woman - but am open to your suggestions. If a woman, I like the puffy outfit. You can make the colors and patterns different.
Thank you! -Bob






June 20, 2015

Dear Bob, Please let me know where the vortex should be shown?


I began to create a composition, but there is a need to first create images of the Witches and Munchkins, to work further on this scene. It is important. I propose to make a separate image of the witch and estimate it as before and 4 images of the Munchkins and estimate them as a single image. Do you agree? As for the Witch's clothes. You say she wore white, but what is it exactly, and what is the style? Maybe you have any samples. The same thing with the Munchkins, do you want the clothes of that time, as in the example you sent?
Thanks, Ruslan




June 19, 2015
Ruslan- Do you think you can make this work? "All will know by Kiss of the Good, Good...Northern Witch that I stand beside you." - Witch Dialog "You can kiss my tail and pray I do not move it!" - Toto's Dialog


-Bob



June 18, 2015
Dear Ruslan, Attached are some images of vortex or whirlpools. unless you have some fire coming from a volcano peak breaking through the clouds over Dreadful Wilds, I think you are done. I will send the map that I sent to Ruslan but I think you must have it already.
I am also sending some examples of contrasting topography that I liked. My favorite is Edge of the World attachment. Any of this or some combination could be scattered where you like in the outback. even in Cornucopia...I like the water effects of the broken up islands and another has a floating island continent and lightning coming from the vortex.

-Bob

















June 17, 2015


Will do. It will be next week as I am at the beach and have no printer or talent. Also, if you have better ideas for those areas- I am very receptive. I came up with this stuff because the map needed something in those areas to make them interesting.
If I do not hear from you I will elaborate.


-Bob

 

 

June 17, 2015


Vortex-Pits. Please let me know more exactly. Where are they and what should be depicted.
Fringes. I added more water to make it look natural. You said you can sketch this out. Please do it so that it is clear where to add the river.
Plateaus. Please show the area in which you want to add trees or texture. Thanks, Ruslan

 

 

June 17, 2015

 

Ruslan explanation 

Your example shows the bright light from the fire place, which is brighter than the light from the candles. There you can see a big flame. In addition many of the characters are sitting against the light, and it gives a certain effect of the light contrast. Also, there is another source of light. It does not correspond to our composition and lighting. The most important thing that the light from the candles will be much weaker than in this example (4 min. 25 sec.): https://d2pq0u4uni88oo.cloudfront.net/projects/1642211/video-545562-h264_high.mp4
I attached together the sepia and color to compare. Do you see the difference?
I'll add color a little, but so that it does not look motley.

 

June 17, 2015

 

Ruslan-

 

I respect your opinion, Ruslan. But can't we get more color in that color image even if it is hues of candlelight-flame?
Do you think the image that I sent you as an example will look dirty when printed?
I am really not trying to give you a hard time. I am showcasing four pieces of your art in Kickstarter and I was hoping all would be spectacular...I thought this was a great opportunity to show off your work with lighting. It may be very different than the sepia one, but most of the folks that will be buying these will be like me - and they just will not see it.
What you did is good...I had hoped for something with more wow! You did that with the B/W and Sepia - I was hoping for a Wow! Wow!!!!! with color.
Thank you for getting back with me.

 

June 17, 2015

 

An explanation for Bob


I do not agree regarding the color illustration. The important thing in the coloring is a color of the light of the scene. Colors look bright and clear in the sunny daylight. When we have evening sunlight all the colors are with a different hue. The special effects of color lighting will be at the moonlight or candlelight. The candle gives weak effect of light and everything will be in a warm color.

But from an artistic point of view, to put everything into a deeper gloom is not necessary. In addition, it will look "dirty" after printing. Yet there are large differences between the sepia and color images that I made.

 

June 17, 2015

Ruslan, I am curious. It took you a week to get me the last image. I know you had other things going. How much longer will you be out of pocket. I got to thinking about the very little that was done on my color drawing and figured you must be busy. How about updating me with when you expect to free up to get back on my project. thx
-Bob

 A side conversation happened on 6/16/15 by other stakeholders:

B Stated:

I do not dislike it. In fact it was closer to what I wanted for sepia and B/W. So in that sense, I love it. I just do not see it as color. Especially after the last illustration (Bard) that I sent to you as an example. If you can't get it close to that in lighting, Why don't you move onto the map and other illustration - I really need to get Kickstarter going. Let's put this on the back burner for awhile. b

Christian Stiehl stated (to Ruslan):

I’m the cartographer Bob hired last November to work on his map of Western Oz. Bob has recently paid me the balance of the commission fee and my part in the project is complete (as far as altering the artwork goes). Part of our contract was that Bob would own the copyright for the image when we were done, and after discussing it with him, I believe he should be able to make alterations to the map at this point. Such alterations have already been discussed with you, I believe, and as far as I know they include adding layers of smoke and/or clouds and changing the way the text labels look, or adding entirely new text labels.
One thing that should not be changed is my artist’s mark in the lower right corner of the map, with my name and date beside it. I did not add a copyright symbol to the map, because our arrangement was that Bob would eventually own the copyright. Bob might want you to add his own copyright notice somewhere else on the map, but I can’t speak for him and I’ll leave that up to you and him to discuss.


I’m including links to the high-resolution master files for the map. These files are in my DropBox. Please let me know right away if you have any trouble downloading them, or need anything else from me.

The files are PNG format, in sRGB 24-bit color space. One is my final master version of the map. The second is my final version but with the text labels taken out. The third is my final version with no text labels and no border. The last file is a simple PNG with the rasterized text label layer with no layer effects and with a transparent background.


The files are rather large at about 90 MB each, and are not any smaller if I try to compress them with ZIP (PNGs are usually compressed automatically, and loss-lessly by default at 24bit depth).
The files are high resolution. I made them this way after discussing with Bob his intended uses, and the fact that he wants to produce large, detailed posters. I’d advise against downsampling them, if possible. If you do re-size the files to lower the resolution, please do so carefully and be aware that certain sharp details, which were drawn pixel-by-pixel in some cases, will no longer be so sharp. Here are the links: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u57s54ed9igb0k7/OZ_FINAL_All_Layers_FullRes.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/9f1b7pzfbfrc6zd/OZ_FINAL_NoText_FullRes.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/242pg13rkxmsf2i/OZ_FINAL_NoText_NoBorder_FullRes.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/lcfqqun84xbgws3/OZ_FINAL_TextOnly_Transp_FullRes.png?dl=0 Good luck with your part in this project. I’ll be happy to help as much as I can. Sincerely, Christian Stiehl

June 15, 2015

Ruslan- Thanks. My map guy said he sent you the links to download. Do you have them?

-Bob

 

 

June 12, 2015

Ruslan- Ok. thx. If you do not hear by Monday, let me know and I will follow up with him.

-Bob

 

 

June 10, 2015

Bob,

Okay, then I'll do the illustration in color.

Best, Ruslan

 

 

 

June 7, 2015

 Ruslan-

Your carvings are beautiful, interesting, and elaborate. What sizes are they usually? Where on the print does the stamp go? Also, I saw your printer can print on a dvd - How much does it cost to print on dvd or cd, a color design? Say if we wanted to copy the books onto it and some of the images you created? - Bob

June 6, 2015

 

Ruslan- Thank you for all of the links. I recall sending you some of my suggestions for the map. Thank you for your consideration. If I need to elaborate, please ask. I will likely send you the text for the third scene by Monday.
-Bob

 

June 6, 2015

Dear Bob, I'm still considering how to improve the map. I have Epson printers, specially for you I made photos of one of the printers (T-50), original Epson Claria Photographic ink and Epson original paper. The same ink will be used for printing of the illustrations. I will install a new six-color model A-3 Epson before printing. Also I attached a photo of my press machine, on which I'm going to make a stamping in addition. This will make the prints more exclusive. I use this machine for printing of engraving. First I cut out the images on the wooden plate, and then make autor prints. It is popular among collectors. I have attached some of my engravings. Best regards, Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

 

June 2, 2015

Ruslan, Check out these images, Ruslan...it is like the look people give when they say "whatever" cynical disbelief, Yes look up and back, mouth pinches -

- Bob

 

 

 

 

 

 

June 2, 2015

Explanation to Bob, I attached the changed black-white and sepia versions. In looking for where to place the text and had to change the composition. This is the only place where the text is combined with all the image. There are certain compositional appropriateness of placing text in illustrations. Need to have the text before I start working on the sketches, because the text is part of the composition. --- Here are the answers to your questions: Is this Giclee? - Yes, this is digital fine art printing or Giclee. Type and composition of paper (we are only working with A-3) - Epson Matte Heavyweight (Premium Presentation Paper Matte A-3) 167 g/m2. or Lomond Matt paper A-3 - 230 g/m2. Archival Ink - Claria Photographic Ink (6 colors) Yes, I will print all the prints on my own printer, sign, number, and emboss each print. 

 

June 2, 2015


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Explanation
Canvas is used for oil painting reproductions, but smooth matt paper is better suited for graphics, because the originals are made on paper, not on the canvas. Therefore, when printing it looks natural.

 

 

June 2, 2015

Ruslan- Back again - sorry...Ruslan, can you list the reasons for using paper instead of canvas...I think canvas sounds more artsy, but there must be plenty of good reasons we are not using it. Give me a list please.


-Bob

 

June 2, 2015

Ruslan- I really like it, Ruslan. You forgot to roll the door's eyes...any chance of that? If it is a huge deal, then leave it as it is. I appreciate you getting the text in. My wife Janet loves the picture. Also, do you know what type of printer you will be using? I will get you the text before you begin the next scene. However, I hope you can look over the map first. Thanks for getting me the other info quickly. Great job...


-Bob


June 2, 2015

Explanation

Here are the answers to your questions:
Is this Giclee? - Yes, this is digital fine art printing or Giclee.

Type and composition of paper (we are only working with A-3) - Epson Matte 
Heavyweight (Premium Presentation Paper Matte A-3) 167 g/m2.
or Lomond Matt paper A-3 - 230 g/m2.
Archival Ink - Claria Photographic Ink  (6 colors)

Ruslan will print all the prints on my own printer, sign, number, and emboss each print.





 

 

June 1, 2015

This is on-going dialog for the last couple of days. I thought the expressions of the characters were kind of sterile.  I got Ruslan's opinion which follows and conferred with Janet, my wife, she does a good job of keeping me balanced.  Following the dialog you will find Ruslan's BW and sepia cabin scenes. In this dialog, I referenced and emailed a handful of images associated with candle lighting for the mood of the color version. I am not going to include these images.

 The interaction of the characters can not be, because your previous concept was this: all, excepting the cow looking at the ceiling. You said earlier you liked the Dorothy, but now you want some emotion. You had to say about it before. What do you want exactly? Please clarify. Never mind


4. There are many options of lighting and tone. I can reduce contrast and make the lighting is softer. Some effects of the candlelight can be shown in color in addition. I understand. I think the lighting is less important with the bw and sepia, but will be very important with the color. I am attaching several images. I submit these with an advance understanding that the images I am providing have more candle power than the two we are providing. But unless you want to add a fireplace, we will have to live with that.

Now the most important thing. It is difficult to change, and will result in the changing of the entire composition and the creation of new sketches and tonal drawing: I understand - so no major changes

You approved the sketch on the basis of which I made the tonal drawing. Once this was done you have new ideas and concepts, such as: Chip reaching up with outstretched arms, some strange interaction between the characters, which contradicts the previous idea. The composition created on the basis of your original idea that the Dorothy, Chip and Toto are looking at the face on the ceiling. If to refuse it and create a new interaction between the characters, this will require new sketches and a new drawing.

You're breaking technology and sequence of creation artwork. This brings me to an additional loss of time and creates problems. I have spoken many times, that you need to make serious changes before working on the drawing during working on the sketches.
It's like if the builder installed tiles for you (which you chose), but after that you did not like these tiles and want to install the tiles of a different color (for the same cost). I understand - so no major changes

Are you able to add text with it being a major change - like in the scare crow-robin image? If so here is the text...“Help me understand… You're a talking cottage, and, you're a talking door...and you've been hiding out in wells and caves?”

If you take out the window, I think the text good go there with minimal reconfiguration....

I hope for your understanding.

Thanks, Bob



 

 

 

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Ruslan, It may be a fair price, but I cannot pay a penny more. You don't seem to get it. The more you charge, the less likely it is that this project will get funded. If it is not funded, you will get the additional twelve scenes and there will be no fees to you for producing limited art because there will be none produced. In fact, I may end up paying you for certificates of authenticity to avoid shipping costs and reduce printing costs by printing over here.

After this scene, there is one more. Then I start up Kickstarter. If I raise enough money there will be more scenes. If not, we are done, unless I try another campaign in a year or two.  Besides, I really don't get it. You saw the image sizes that can be printed with the map. His files are detailed and so large I will have to download them to transfer - I am not paying for each size.  

So no.  Produce A3. We will not be printing A-4. I have been advised that they are too small. Also, I will pay the extra $ on this scene one time. On the next two, no...I just cannot put out more money now. I will pay what we agreed upon. Is this acceptable?  Bob

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Explanation:
I always try to do the artworks for you at the low price. You make a lot of changes in the process of work on the sketches. I try to do so to implement your ideas artistically. Therefore, it takes more time and accordingly cost. If it is so important, I will try to save you money at the expense of my time and will not charge $ for the next sketch. Prints. Well, let's make A-3 for $ as we agreed earlier.

Author's prints require fine setup of printing, profiling. After that I'll put my signature and number of print. In this case, it has art value, and will be properly printed in color and tone according to the artist's intention.


In addition, I will make my stamp on my press machine, if you want, but we can discuss it separately. Such relief would be well combined with the image and signature. Of course, you can print the book there where are you to avoid shipping costs.

You said earlier that you will buy my original drawings on paper, not only prints. Will you do that?


 

May 25, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,
Overall I like this map, but what I can't seem to get across are the following points.
I do not feel there is enough contrast in color, in the map in general.
That red area is Hell's Hearth...I wanted the fire on parts of the canyon walls with yellow smoke-sulpherous rather than covering the canyon floor as it does now.
There is also too much similarity with the Dreadful Wilds and Outlands.  Recently I asked him to:
Consider this option. The Wilds is supposed to be unknown, and mysterious.  What if you covered most of it with dark clouds, maybe a few cloud breaks where you have fire or mountain peak, and a bolt or so of lightening if that is possible.
 
 
I will attach Christian's latest map, May 22 and also a map that I made some marks on, May 16.  The little blue circles on some mountain peaks were to add volcanic action.  He added a volcano near cornucopia, but it just has a puff of white.  At any rate see what you can do or suggest.  I think the Outlands and Dreadful Wilds lacks character...the suggestion I made above will work if well done.
Volcano close to Cornucopia
I see you added smoke...good move. I would like to see the smoke have some black in  it and some red lava trickling down the volcano's sides.
There is plenty of room and one white peaked mountain near the top of the image that could also be converted from peak to volcano with some similar coloring...the fire red would add some contrast to these areas and interest.
Vortex-Pits
These are a great addition to the Wilds. How about making one of them spewing fire and yellow black smoke.  Or add another one. Or do something like this along the mountain base leading into the wilds.
Fringes

I am embarrased to say...that I today noticed the many layers of tiers coming off the Wilds and Outlands.  Great job.

One thing I would like to see would be a waterfall coming off of the top tier of the Fringes, pooling a bit on each tier and running off some rivulets and ending with a water body collection in the Outlands.  From this lake or whatever, you could run a river or stream into that INCREDIBLE ravine that separates the Wilds/Outlands/Monkey Jungle. The river would add to the natural flow of water below. I can sketch this out. I just figure out how

Plateaus - 

This one is your fault.  Since this can be enlarged and I never noticed it  on a small image are the plateaus - can you give them a bit of texture or tree or blemish - not all of them but just cut in a little diversity.  They are extensive at my request, and I want them to remain - just make parts of them look less flat and perfect. If this is any kind of hassle at all - forget it. I am likely being picky.

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ruslan,
William's face is kinder.  Please make this change to the horns.  I am attaching an image. William's horns- can you make them wider apart - a bigger spread between the horns? It will add to the kindness and take away a bit of the demonic...

However, these comments are to save you some time in the future. 

Should the face on the wall be on the opposite wall if it is to be interacting with Chip?

In the end product, I would like more distortion to the face on the wall so that one almost has to wonder is it just the grain and texture of the wood. Also the ceiling and door need to have a wooden/rustic texture.

I think the picture is fine otherwise if you want to move on to formalizing it.

b


 

 

 

 

M

 

May 21, 2015

New Scene...

 

Dear Ruslan, Here is the next piece of art I would like. Dorothy just got the kiss of the witch burnt into her forehead and it hurts.

The witch (you have the face) is holding Dorothy’s shoulders, facing her in a friendly, motherly fashion. Please use the witch faces that I sent to you awhile ago.

Dorothy has turned away, facing the viewer with a pained and surprised expression.

Toto is in her arms growling and bearing his teeth at the Witch.

There are Munchkins standing around the two of them, looking up Dorothy or at the Witch with various expressions on their faces:

One looks horrified – perhaps hand over heart or mouth – looking at Dorothy or Witch

One is looking shocked -    “                            “                           “                                 “

One is wincing

One is bending around the witch and looking up at Dorothy to catch a view of the kiss on her forehead

Please use body language, hands, etc to show emotions.

They are in colorful woods with flowers, etc as a background.  Please show Munchkins in various shades of blue – Rich colored clothes. I am thinking the blue will stand out.  Here is a link to munchkins :

 

http://www.thejudyroom.com/oz/munchkins.html

 

Below is more description

I looked up to find a group of blue people walking toward us. Everything about them was blue. Both men and women of about the same size wore blue boots, hats, pants, shirts, skirts, and overalls. Blue, perhaps, tinted their skin; they were too far to say for sure.

Witch - There was one exception; and old woman - she wore white. Her face bore more wrinkles than an un-ironed cotton shirt and her white hair would give the whitest bridal gown a run for its money.

Thank you,

Bob

 

 

May 20, 2015

Dear Ruslan, Yes...I like most of it just fine. Toto, Dorothy, and Chip look fine. I love the candle on the main table - such personality. Scarecrow looks fine,

but he needs to be body-language scared of the twisted face on the cabin wall. In the story, the face blends with the texture, grain of the wood, and knotholes...like knotty pine paneling. See the attached image.

Everything in the cabin should look rough and rustic. The table, floor, the chair that Chip sits on. Also can you toss a couple of spider webs in the corners - behind the corner candle and in the ceiling wall corner?

"Door" is looking grumpier - good. In the book, the ceiling, ripples when she speaks. Can you show ripples rolling outward from her image? Like a stone tossed in still water...

Sorry if I sound like a broken record. You are doing well.  

B

 

 

 

 

 

May 19, 2015

 Greetings Ruslan, Yes - this is a good change.

FYI - since I try not to waste your time with redoing images, I point out everything that I see so that you can choose to incorporate those items into the next image...or not.
 
So if you choose not to use those suggestions at any given time, I understand, but I will continue to list them. However, it is not intended to badger you.
Having said that...

Chip Chopper is fine.  

Toto needs to be looking at something...scarecrow even, with his head cocked - Dog inquisitive look.
Last image had a face in the wall near the corner. I mentioned distorting that and having Scrobins, pointing or looking surprise at it. 
 
The faces of the door and ceiling are better.
 
I don't think William needs to be looking up.  She can be resting as cows do with her eyes closed. To much looking up.
Back to you!
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Explanation,

This can be considered only as a compositional arrangement before more detailed drawing. Composition of all the elements is very important here. Till I did not make it very detailed. I increased Chip Chopper a little, but not need to do it more because he will dominate in the illustration.


 

 

 

              

 

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Thank you Ruslan, These are general comments.

I think the scene is too busy. After these recommendations, perhaps it will be fine.

Put Toto in Dorothy's lap, looking up also, tongue hanging out side of mouth, that will free some room to  Dorothy's right.

Make the table narrower, showing more floor space to Dorothy's right.

Then move the scarecrow to the far left of the scene, looking out and poised as if he is scared. Pointing perhaps to the facial image on the wall near the corner.(there will be a corner table).

The table with Dorothy  should have one candle and that candle is the area of primary glow.

There should be a table in the corner with a smaller glow radius, a secondary radius, and illuminating the facial features on the wall and that corner.

The facial features on  the wall need to look like a twisted face that one almost has to imagine.- it is too defined in this image.

The face of the cottage on the ceiling is too defined and does not need hair, only hints and ripples of gentle femininity.

Moving scarecrow and some of these other changes will leave more room for Door and his features. He will be more prominent.

The focus of this scene is the lighting, mystery, and character of Door and Cottage.  Door needs to look old and grumpy.

I love the way Dorothy looks. You nailed her.

I suggest having Chip Chopper standing, larger in dimension as he is a giant, and blissfully gleeful...if there is such a word.

Great first draft!

b

 

 

 

 

     

Ok, Ruslan, thank you. Send the invoices. I like Dorothy's clothe colors.

In speaking with a master framer, (he has done work for Dali Museum in our area and some others), He suggests going with a frame size that is more conventional/conducive to framing.  He says these sizes would incorporate the borders - like you have in mind.

He suggests 12x16, 16x20, and 18x24.

What are your thoughts and what will you charge to print to these sizes on the materials that we have discussed.

 b

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Dear Ruslan,

You did a great job with the Kickstarter cover. My apologies for not sharing my appreciation. I forgot or got side tracked. Yes you can bill.

 

Dorothy, what suggestions do you have for color - bright and vivid comes to mind. Your thoughts....the lips on her head are red. There are some corrections on the names of the characters.

 

Wizard not Wizzard,  “Jim Johnson” not “Johnson”,  “Gribbon” not “mushroom”

 

Thank you.  b

  

 

May 9, 2015

Greetings Ruslan,

If you can...if you can make her eyes a little bigger, otherwise fine. She has to have the lips burned into her forehead.

Did you get my request to put the names of the characters in their character images?

I want to give you credit for your work...can you send me a Bio?  You can send me a link to your gallery if you like.

Here is the next scene. I hope it is written to save you some time.

b

 

o     Door and Cottage Description.docx

 

May 7, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

I can lower the price to $xx for A-4 and $xx for A-3.

Regarding the cost of shipping.

Cost of sending one print of A-4 will be $120/300 prints = $0.4.   A-3 $120/150=$0.8.

Perhaps, I can send 200 of A-3 for $120 or 400 of A-4 for the same price.

Thus cost of shipping one print of A-4 will be $0.3,  A-3 - $0.6.

Best regards, Ruslan

 

Dear Ruslan,

I really appreciate your willingness to help and I also appreciate the math computation. I will wait back to hear what Kickstarter has to say. I will get you a scene by this weekend.

May 6, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

It would be good if you will send a more detailed description of at least one scene, because needs to complete three scenes by the end of May, as you mentioned earlier.

Best regards, Ruslan

 

May 7

 

Ok - it may be Friday or so. I have asked Kickstarter to evaluate what I am having to charge for books and the limited edition prints. If the price point is too high we will not achieve funding. For example - the A3

 

$xx to you, approx  - A4 - $xx

$3 if you ship a couple hundred to me

$3 for packaging and handling

$6 for postage and certification

 So we have $xx investment for the A3 or about $xx.00 for the A4. If my costs are 50% of the donation I request, then I must ask:

 $75 for the A4

$115 for the A3

 I don't know if folks will pay that. Do you have any suggestions?

 

May 5

 

Dorothy - I shared it with the women who did not like the other Dorothy. We must await their response. Thanks for this info. I am getting prices to ship internationally - It costs a crazy amount to send a book.

 

b

 

May 4, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan

 

I appreciate your thoughts...I do not want to pester, but I have to quantify our costs.

 How many images do you think you can mail for that 5K postage fee. Also, when I am shipping prints, I understand that placing the art between sheets of card board is the way to go. But how do I package for a couple, or for several, or a dozen.Do I lay them atop one another? Doesn't sound logical. How will I ship these. I have to know these costs too once I figure out these answers.

 

May 4

 

Explanation

 Approximately 5 kg of weight includes 150 prints of A-3 or 300 of A-4 + box.

 

For a different number of the prints required different hardness of package: more prints - stronger package. I think need to make some versions of the packaging or a box, in which you can put one or a dozen of the sheets. It would be possible to make an exclusive package for this edition and for example to print something on it. But this additional cost. If you take a tube of larger diameter, it is possible to place a few prints there, the main thing to make so that the prints not be crumpled.

 

  

o     New Dorothy.jpg

  

It probably is, but my women fans are highly opinionated. I will share it with them

 

May 2, 2015

Thank you Ruslan, this is a big help!

 

I  sent you the images on Dorothy - three faces. So what do you mean description?  I will figure out clothes. Do you have any ideas?

 

Use your judgement...

 

 

o     050115 B Dorothy2.jpg

o     050115 B Dorothy1.jpg

o     050115 B Dorothy-what U think.jpg

o     050115 B Dorothy.jpg

 

 

 

Hi Bob,

Thank you for the references. I will select the most suitable option.

 

 

Best regards, Ruslan

 

May 1

 

I did the cover composition for the site. Please see the attachment.         

I also tested the paper for prints. This is Epson Matte Paper Heavyweight, what is? 167g/m2. As an option, we can use Lomond Matte Paper, 230 g/m2 (made in Germany). Lightfastness of Epson Matte Paper will be higher. Lomond is also very good, but it would suitable more for the format A-3 because of the greater density. Ok, when would you use what so I can explain why we would be using both or each one? I researched lightfastness, but you did not give the life, or rating and their is a couple of different ratings.

 

Ink- Epson Claria. Ink Printing. Is it pigmented? What is its life? What will be the life of  the images if framed and kept out of the sun?  Anything else important to their preservation other than low humidity?

 

 

It is better not to send prints to customers in a tube, maybe only 167g/m2. - I do not understand?  Does it mean yes for some of the prints and no for others?

 

 

If not tubes than how do I ship A3  and A4 that you sign?

 

 

As to the price for shipping. They are changing the prices, I can not say for sure right now, but I know for sure that it will be a reasonable price, lower than DHL. I do not understand DHL. Can you give me an idea how much shipping is costing now with respect to how many you can ship at one time. I have to have numbers to price services and delivery.

 

How may prints can you put in your wooden packaging? Thank you for sending the picture!

 

In closing, please think of anything that a serious collector would ask before they would buy a painting or expensive print. I need this for my description

 

Also do not worry about the safety. I will do a qualitative wooden packaging. Please see the attached photo of the packaging. I send oil paintings in such boxes.  

Best regards, Ruslan

 

 

May 1

Hi Bob,

 

Please see the references: Epson Matte Heavyweight (Premium Presentation Paper Matte)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epson-Supplies-paper-Matte-Heavyweight/dp/B000051RQT

 

 

We can use Epson Matte Heavyweight for the A-4, and a denser Lomond Matte Paper for the A-3. Although it would be better to use Epson in both options, the quality will be better. For final output should do the test for light fastness of Lomond paper. I will do the test myself, but will need time.

 

 

Regarding pigment inks. Claria ink is very high qualitative and superior to some pigment ink in some cases. For example, its rating superior UltraChrome K3 pigment ink on Epson Exhibition Fiber Paper - 90 years under glass. Claria ink on Epson Matte Heavyweight - 97 years under glass. Also Claria ink superior EPSON DURABRITE ULTRA (pigment ink). Please see the attached file Word file (test sunlight 15 days). Only black color is more durable. So Claria ink on proper paper gives an excellent result.

 

 

Tests of Claria ink and Epson Matte Heavyweight (Premium Presentation Paper Matte) at Wilhelm Research (a4, a3):

 

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/800.html

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/SP1400.html

 

Shipping.

Deutsche Post DHL provides international express mail services. Same as FedEx, but Ukrainian registered mail is cheaper. The price depends on the weight, I do not know exactly how many prints you will order and how much it will weigh. For example, 5 kg will cost about $120 (including wooden box).

 

 

You can send A-4 prints in the envelope between two sheets of cardboard, and A-3 in a tube to customers.

 

 

I am working on Dorothy image. Please send description / samples of her clothes.

 

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

o     Delta E Claria.txt

 

Apr 30, 2015

 

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

 

Thanks for the cover photo for Kickstarter - it fit like a glove. I have attached an image so you might see how well it came out.

 

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Ruslan, please take a look at the image below. This is being drafted by a digital artist in Seattle.  I have asked him the same questions about printing and printing sizes, but he does not have your experience. Beneath the picture are his thoughts on printing and their different sizes. Can you make any recommendations for what material we might use to offer a ltd edition similar in quality to yours?

 

 

 

On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Christian STIEHL  wrote:

 

Bob,

 

Congratulations on the imminent start of your Kickstarter campaign. I know that’s an exciting time. Though I don’t have large numbers of Twitter followers or Facebook contacts, I’ll certainly be letting them know about the campaign and sending the people in my social circle to your site.

 

 

As you can tell my the number of proofs I’ve been sending you over the last few months, I’m doing everything I can to get this project done and have our contract fulfilled as soon as possible. I allowed the scope of the detail in the poster to run away from me a bit, and it’s taken far longer than I’d estimated at the beginning. I haven’t kept strict track of my time (because that was never part of our contract), but at this point I’d conservatively say that I’m into “hundreds of hours” territory in terms of the amount of time I’ve spent drawing this map since late last year. It’s been rewarding in many ways, but I’m fairly desperate to be finished.

 

 

Sizes:

The resolution of the file is quite high, so the map could be easily printed at any number of sizes. Keeping things proportional, and just going off the top of my head (with regards to common poster sizes), you could easily print the posters at:

 

 

               1) 18.5 by 24 inches

               2) 23.2 by 30 inches

               3) 28 by 36 inches

               4) 32.5 by 42 inches

               5) 37 by 48 inches

 

Border:

The map file I’m providing to you has a decorative border as part of the map image itself, which you’ve already seen. Any additional padding of border space (for instance, in order to fit on a particular poster size of paper) would most likely be handled by the printer. If the printer needs me to pad the image with a border of some kind, just let me know and I can help.

 

Process/Paper:

This is really up to you, based on the quality you wish to provide to your readers and/or kickstarter backers. You’ll need to investigate printing options and decide on a price point that delivers the kind of poster you’d like people to have. I’m familiar with giclee/inkjet printing processes and various types of paper/substrate that you might use, but there are lots of options. You could print the poster on glossy or semigloss stock — those are really good for preserving fine detail. Semigloss is especially good, because it doesn’t reflect quite as much as full glossy stock. Or you could print the poster on canvas, and it would look even more like an actual painting or drawing, at the cost of some level of detail. If I were you, I’d want to investigate the various options available and see which ones struck me as the most desirable for the best price.

 

 

Inks:

Yes, by all means use archival inks. In the industry, these are also called “pigmented inks”. They are often rated as “UV protected”. Getting acid-free paper is also a good idea.

 

 

As we discussed on the phone, I used to work for Kinko’s. I worked there for more than 11 years, and during that time one of my jobs was to prepare and print large posters on big inkjet printers. These tended to be individual posters for business customers, for use in presentations and such. We didn’t to any “runs” of multiple posters, because our pricing model was such that it was much more economical for customers to go to other places for that. I left Kinko’s in 2006 and haven’t really been involved in poster printing since then.

 

 

Signing:

As we discussed, I’m happy to sign and number the poster copies. Since I work from home, I can generally be available to receive deliveries if I know what day they’re supposed to arrive.

 

 

Mailing:

I don’t really have any experience with fulfillment duties for campaigns like this, such as mailing things to backers. One detail I know is that you want to do everything possible to avoid shipping internationally, because it’s so extraordinarily expensive. I assume that there is some sort of mailing tube or tube-like box that would be used. We used to have a triangular box at Kinko’s that we used for posters being sent by FedEx. Perhaps the printer that you choose will have shipping options. Whatever size you choose for the posters will of course dictate the size you need for the shipping container.

 

 

I’ll be sending you a new proof with some changes to the Hell’s Hearth area. Expect that later today, most likely.

 

 

 

Sincerely,  Christian Stiehl

 

 

 

Dear Bob,

 

I did the cover composition for the site. Please see the attachment.

 

I also tested the paper for prints. This is Epson Matte Paper Heavyweight, 167g/m2. As an option, we can use Lomond Matte Paper, 230 g/m2 (made in Germany). Lightfastness of Epson Matte Paper will be higher. Lomond is also very good, but it would suitable more for the format A-3 because of the greater density. Ink- Epson Claria. Ink Printing. It is better not to send prints to customers in a tube, maybe only 167g/m2.

 

 

As to the price for shipping. They are changing the prices, I can not say for sure right now, but I know for sure that it will be a reasonable price, lower than DHL. Also do not worry about the safety. I will do a qualitative wooden packaging.  Please see the attached photo of the packaging. I send oil paintings in such boxes.

 

Best regards, Ruslan

 

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Apr 29

  

Dear Ruslan,

 

Here is a screen print of what I have and the size of the image that I need for Kickstarter. I took one image in edit mode and you can see the size. The larger one is what it looks like to the public. You may not be able to see, but the image quality is really poor so I must have used something I shrunk,

 

See what you can do to fit this size window and put in the detail like one of the original drawings.  Thx and no hurrry

 

b

 

 

 

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Dear Bob,

 

I can do the cover design in size 1024 x 768 pixels, but need to include the book title for balance of the composition, otherwise need to make a new drawing for this size. It will take time. Do you agree?

 

 

Thanks, Ruslan

 

Apr 29

Bob Moyer

 

Yes add the book title. Thank you.  

 

Apr 28, 2015

 Thank you, and inks, and printing process - all of the details to make us look like the professionals that we are.  Also the method I might use to ship it to customers. You would do a bulk crate or something.  Would I use a tube??? etc.

 

 

Also the cost for you to ship me a hundred, five hundred, a thousand at a time.  Thank you.  No guessing - be precise as I have to raise the money and am dealing with a number of unknowns already.

 

Thank you, b

 

Dear Bob,

 

I am choosing the paper for printing and will let you know  the most suitable option this Thursday. Thanks, Ruslan

 

 

Apr 27, 2015

Dear Ruslan, these characters have sufficient innocence to please the ladies that I have conferred with.  Please see what you can come up with.

 

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I have a favor to ask. I have taken this week to half days so that I can finish my Kickstarter Campaign  except for the final scenes and perhaps Dorothy and Lion and Witch.

 

 

I would really appreciate firming up all of the details with respect to the limited edition art before we proceed with any more character/scene drafting, If you could do it this week, that would be great.

 

 

Once we have those details in place, we can go back to art.  I thank you in advance...

 

 

b

 

Dear Bob,

 

Thank you for the payment and feedback. I attached the file with scenes which you sent me earlier. But I have a request to you. In addition to the literary text please send a clear description of the scenes: what and how should be shown in every scene, because the literary text can be interpreted in different ways and maybe if you have the samples which may help. This will help to avoid misunderstandings.

 

 

Thanks, Ruslan

 

Apr 26

 

Dear Ruslan,

Yes, perhaps it is the dress.  I will keep my eyes out for a Dorothy. 

 

 

What scenes did I send you?

 

 

Also, can you put the names of the characters on their images on those that you just completed?

 

 

Scarecrow – Scrobins,            Tin Man - Chip Chopper,          Jim Johnson

 

 

The winged creature has no name however it is a dalailama.  I will name the mushroom later.

 

 

Thank you, b

 

Dear Bob,

 

I am glad you liked the characters. As to Dorothy, I think this dress is too sexy  for a girl of sixteen. Maybe we should change her clothes? If you have ideas and samples on this characters please send.

 

 

Okay, let's move on to the scenes. Which three scenes do you want to do now?

 

 I'll find out print details next week.

 

 

 

Best regards, Ruslan

April 26, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

These characters look great, Ruslan. I appreciate the extra energy.  I  can tell you this, I like the last Dorothy, this Dorothy a bit better, but we will still have to leave this as another character later.  The  folks looking at my picture expect a bit of tomboy, wide-eyed pig-tailed sixteen year old innocence, yet with a contemporary look.

 

 

I will be glad to pay you for these and move on to the scenes.  Thanks. Keep your thoughts open for Dorothy...

 

 

Also, In the next week say no longer than two, I really need to firm up the fine points of the A3, A4s - material, archival inks, life, weight, etc.

 

 

 

Bob

 

April 25, 2015

 

 

Dear Bob,

I looked at the samples from references. Frankly, these illustrations look "sluggish" and do not have the dynamics, energy, color and tone enough. Plastic of the movements is "dry". It's not impressed me.

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Please see the attached characters. I added more realism.

Wizard

I added a glow around Wizard. This is the most suitable version of those that I tried. We already have an evil Wizard's face on the cover, so I did not change the face expression here. This can be done in any scene.

Dorothy - I made her more youthful and sophisticated, made her lips less swollen, which gave her sexuality. However, I left big eyes for expressive image.

Jim - I made him younger, worked on the forms and volumes.

Dangerous creature - I did it more relief and volume.

Mushroom creature - I was looking for different versions of the feet, this is the most appropriate. I spread his toes so that it looks like the roots and remove the ridge.

I would like to note, these characters now look more three-dimensional and realistic than the scarecrow and metal man. Makes no sense to do that more, because the overall style will be lost. Such a degree of elaboration takes more time than I had planned. These characters will look realistic in the scenes.

Best regards,

Ruslan
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Greetings Ruslan,

I was working on my Kickstarter campaign and returned to one of the successful projects that I reference in my set up.

If you log into Kickstarter you can see the video. In addition to some of the art. The video is a fascinating (at least to me and the public) piece with a magical quality and transition.

Bob Moyer
Alice in Wonderland Book (Illustrated by David Delamare) by Bad Monkey Productions — Kickstarter

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1954507197/alice-in-wonderland-book-illustrated-by-david-dela?ref=discovery

b

 

April 24, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

OK, we need three more scenes. They need to be really striking. I can send you some descriptions for you to choose the scenes you think you could do best utilizing the art form we are using.

Then figure out on perhaps one of the scenes what it would cost to do it as your second suggestion. I will consider the cost and if we do nothing now, perhaps we will once we get funded. I will look forward to your adding realism, volume, and tonal transitions.

That Joker face that I sent to you. I would like you to incorporate it into the face of a witch. We have a couple of those in Oz. You can still do the mean wizard, but you can work with his face as you did in the cover photo. If the witch's face looks great, that would be a fun one to incorporate into a scene.

PS - My critique group really liked the scarecrow and robin.

Thank you for your patience.

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April 22, 2015

 

Ruslan-

Thank you. You are a fine artist and I respect your opinion and expertise. I need a day or two to think over what you have written. My time has been limited this week.

 

Mushroom man is really getting there!  What do you think about making the two outside eyes farther out and apart from the others, maybe almond shaped, maybe malevolent if possible.. I really like the sinister look. You have done very well. Here is one more suggestion that will help later in a scene. Maybe splay the legs and draw them in and/or incorporate them into the body of the mushroom so that the feet appear almost as roots supporting the creature, and the outline of the legs are in the stalk. You can also lose the ridges on its back. This will allow you blend it into a forest environment later. It is really looking good. I understand that this may sound critical, but I really like it and... 

 

I will respond on the other thing

-Bob 

 

 

April 21, 2015

Dear Bob,

I wish you good luck in business. Thank you for the payment.

 

I do not agree that the characters look cartoonish. This style has a certain graphic quality and conditional character, but it's good for clarity silhouettes images in the book. I did the scarecrow scene and there already was chosen general style on the basis of which I did the colored characters. You approved this scene and the style. Now you want completely realistic style, if we consider samples of   Dorothy and mushroom creature. These are 3-D model illustrations. This will require a completely different method and technique and will be very different from the made characters and the Scarecrow scene. We agreed earlier that I would convert the pencil drawings in color and this method is possible in this case, and this corresponds to the price. If you want very realistic color illustrations, then I should do it on a large sheet with paints (watercolor, tempera) or even better oil painting on the canvas/ cardboard. Oil painting is best suited for maximum realism and it will look impressive, but it is difficult to edit. This would exclude completely pencil shading (contour, etc.). These illustrations will require more time, so we will have to revise the price. Actually need to do BW/sepia illustrations, and separately detailed realistic color illustrations on their basis.

 

I see two ways to solve the problem:

 

We retain the current style, I make corrections and add realism, more volume and tonal transitions in digital form. But it can not be 3-D model style because this one based on pencil drawings. I want to note that the Scarecrow and Metal Man, that you have approved are made in the same style as the rest of the characters. Scarecrow looks even more flat. I also have to modify these characters and Scarecrow scene, because for example, the corn really looks cartoonish. I think this is the most optimal way.

 

I can do bw / sepia illustrations and very realistic painting illustrations on the basis of these compositions. Of course, it will give maximum realism and artistry, but it will make the work more complex and will be more expensive. It's a completely different style. Then I can do photo reproductions from the paintings for prints. Once again, oil painting is difficult to adjust because of the peculiarities of this technique.

 

I made a new mushroom creature. It is attached.

 

I hope you understand the problem. Please let me know what you think?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

April 21, 2015 

 

Dear Ruslan,

It seems we need another cover like we did for Facebook and my website. The ratio and dimensions are on the attachment. I tried using an existing image...no good.

 

I am attaching an image to show you what is happening...

 

If there is room for only part of the title once you revise it, then please use The Wizard Was Odd...You can create your own account if you need to play with the image layout. It is quick and easy.

This is not urgent.

 

-Bob 

 

 

April 21, 2015

 

On the more technical side, high-resolution project images will ensure that your project is presented in the best possible light for backers, no matter what device or settings they’re browsing with. This is especially important as devices and monitors are continuously using higher resolution.

A few more technical details... We recommend that you use a project image that is 1024x768 pixels (4:3 ratio) in size. We accept most major image formats, but for best results upload one of our recommended file types: JPEG, PNG, GIF, or BMP. The maximum image size is 50 MB.

 

-Bob

 

Dear Ruslan,

Yesterday was crazy - personnel issues and the loss of a big account. I could not focus and give the pictures the attention I should have. As I reviewed them hastily, something bothered me about some of them, yet I could not define it at the time being preoccupied. Last night I reviewed them again and again and finally I figured it out.

In bw/sepia, and as sketches the characters look great. However, now that color is added, some of them look cartoonish rather than realistic.

 

Scarecrow - the addition of the straw at his ankles makes him perfect. Bill me.

 

Metal man is fine - bill me.

 

Dangerous creature - looks like a cartoon, a painting, and reminds me of paint-by-number when I was a child. You wanted an image of a mushroom creature. I am attaching it. I want my characters to look real life like this.

 

Mushroom creature - pull its legs in and arms in so they are visible yet part of the stalk. Color realistically.

 

Wizard -  Same comments as above....painted, cartoonish.  I am attaching an image of a wizard that looks very close to realistic as an example. However, if you utilize the cloak-robe that you have shown me, I would like it to sparkle or glitter among the black of the cloak

 

Dorothy - Here are some comments - please take in the spirit intended. Colored she looks like a painting, a doll, a mannequin. I am attaching another image of an odd looking girl. This odd looking girl looks real, surreal, and just a bit odd. If your realism is a bit odd like this one, that is ok.

 

Jim - I like your idea about removing his beard or making it wispy. Like the others, the image is cartoonish, painted....I do not mind it being painted as long as they look realistic. I still intend to do the limited edition distributions. This morning I sent off the color images to one whose professional opinion I value. I also shared your bw/sepia/sketches. She is excited about your bw/sepia/sketches, and scarecrow scene. But her take,concerns on the color images are pretty much the same as mine. She believes that those who will consider limited edition prints, will not be excited about the painted-cartoonish character style of art.  If we are going to be offering your art as limited edition, folks will be picky.  Please know that I enjoy working with you and mean no offense.

 

The Wizard you painted is the "good wizard".  When you have time, I will pay you to draw the same character utilizing some of the facial features of the images below.  Basically, he starts off devious and wicked and undergoes a transformation.  I especially like the joker type images and will pay you a character fee to develop this one.

If it helps, I will pay you an extra $ to fix up the characters and creatures so they look realistic.

-Bob 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

April 21, 2015

 

Hi  Bob,

I am glad you liked the color characters. Then I will send an invoice for the work done in color (7 characters $ per each as we agreed earlier). The changes you mentioned are assigned to work on the forms and require new drawings).

 

I added straw to the scarecrow.

 

If you have samples on the mushroom/bug, please send it and clarify more in detail

 

What you want exactly: should I leave 4 eyes, tail, etc.? And when do you need to have this new creature?

 

As for the Jim's face, maybe it would be better to remove the stubble because it adds age. What you think?

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

April 20, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the color Wizard.

Did you receive 5 characters which I sent on Saturday?

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 April 20, 2015

 

Sorry I thought I sent this.  These are very good! The dangerous creature is fine.

 

I would like the mushroom creature to look like the mushroom creature I sent - pull in both upper and lower legs into the stalk and make it look like a mushroom/bug...please. You will have an opportunity later on to draw a major creature that will look more like a bug.

 

My critics say that Jim looks too old. Can you make him look more like a teenager?

 

You were right...Dorothy looks too sexy. You will use this character elsewhere, but we will rename her at a later date.  As you said, Dorothy needs to look younger, innocent...blue eyed...you do not need to take any action on her at this time.

 

The scarecrow looks magnificent.  However, he needs a bit of straw to hide his ankles.

 

 -Bob

 

 

April 20, 2015

 

I just replied. Your email was in "draft". I thought it was sent earlier. Good job...

 

 -Bob 

 

 

April 18, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the attached characters. I did so to make it look harmonious, slightly changing the initial ideas. For example, I made Jim's hat brown so that it is better to combine with the boots.

 

Hope you will like everything.

 

Tomorrow I will send the Wizard.

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

April 16, 2015

Dear Bob,

I have already developed a method and style how best to make the characters in color and plan to finish and send all the characters on Saturday night.

Yes, of course I am able to complete 3 more scenes by the end of May.

As for the printing process. I will do a test and to clarify the name of the paper. Author's signature goes on a white field, not on the image.

Maybe I'll make my logo, I have a special high pressure machine to do the stamping. It will be also done at the border. I think, this will be enough to make each print unique.

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

April 16, 2015

I defer to your judgement. You are the expert and have been a good partner in this venture.

 - Bob

 

 

April 15, 2015

Dear Ruslan,

I wanted to run a few things by you.

Kickstarter - I want to start this in June.

A video is required and I would like to incorporate some of your character art and four scenes.  Is that something that works with your schedule by the end of May. This would mean colorizing the characters and drafting three more scenes.

Giclee or Lithograph

I had asked before what archival materials you would be using as I wanted these limited editions to last a hundred years or more with care. You gave me a partial explanation and said you would let me know on the printing process.

I would like to get those details firmed up in the next couple of weeks. Is that possible?  I have to add this information in my Kickstarter platform to make it look like we know what we are doing to create a quality archival limited edition art.

Ink

Canvas/paper with the weight and dimensions including a border.

Printing Process

Anything you can add that will heighten value once this series takes off?

Limited Edition Prints 

Do you have or can you create an unusual or artsy signature?  If so can you share it?

Where would it go on the limited edition - border or would you incorporate it into the image?

In reviewing limited edition art, I read that sometimes the artist adds a little touch or difference to a print to make it unique. Is this practical or possible and if so, what do you suggest and how much would it be per print.

Is there anything you can share with me that I aught to know?

Record Keeping

I have found a system/company that will track the owners of limited edition prints. I intend to use this and provide each owner of a Ltd edition with a list of all limited editions.

OK - I am out of words. Your insight will be most helpful.

- Bob

 

 

April 15, 2015

Dear Bob,

You propose me to do not just the characters in color, but new poses / small scenes in your last message. This will require new sketches to approve these scenes and making of new drawings, because it is necessary to find the relationship, for example, between Jim and William, Dorothy and mirror. Especially since you always want to make any changes.

We agreed earlier that each character will have 3 versions: black and white, sepia and color. Therefore I started to do in color the characters that have already been made, and approved by you. Now it is important to find a color combination.

Also I am looking for a method how best to do many things in color and it takes some time. I have to combine a color rigid shading for the unity of style with pencil basis and add an air brush for volume, so that will look organically. Black and white and sepia methods are already worked through by me. Color require to solve new tasks. So let's finish the job on the color without making new compositions. Do you agree? Hope for your understanding.

I would like to note that Dorothy's dress merges with the color of her skin and it would be better to change the dress color, for example in pink. What do you think?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

April 15, 2015

I agree. Pink is fine. Or any other color that you think might work..Emerald City Green. I think she has green eyes too.  Your call!

-Bob

 

 

April 15, 2015

Bob,

Thank you for the payment and feedback.

I will do the characters in color in the coming days.

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

April 13,2015

Dear Bob,

I sent the invoice.

As to the color characters (Dorothy, Jim, metal man, Wizard, the mushroom creature and dangerous creature), please let me know  if you have any preferences for each image. There are descriptions of some of the characters, but maybe you want to clarify some details.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

April 13, 2015

Greetings Ruslan,

 

Thank you for asking!

 

 Well I did want Dorothy in that dress that I first sent to you. She would be looking in a mirror so that the front of the dress and the back or side showed. She would be standing and stretching looking back over her shoulder into a full length mirror. Dorothy has to have an impression of red lips on her forehead but most of her bangs could cover it...

 

Jim could be leaning against William with a reed in his mouth.  The outfit you put him in looked great; just give him some color. Maybe looking flustered, rolling his eyes, or looking bored.

 

Take a look at some really colorful mushrooms and come up with your own ideas - the more camouflaged the better.

 

I sent you some text on the metal man awhile ago...but that was part of a detailed scene that I would be paying you more for...Maybe have one foot resting on a log and his ax in hand and pincer arm resting on his raised knee.

 

Maybe show the dangerous creature howling.  You might have some good color ideas as you said it would look good in color.

 

-Bob

 

 

April 8, 2015

Dear Bob,

 

Hope everything is okay with the modified creature. I made so that the wings and wing fins and head spikes are concave, and made the claws longer.  I made concave only the upper part of the wings, so as not to lose aggression. If all is well, may I submit an invoice for this new character? Now I am going to start on the lion character.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

April 8, 2015 Forwarded message created on April 4, 2015 from Bob to Raslan:

 

Yes, also, this is the wording I sent on the email a few days ago...

 

This creature looks good, Ruslan. In the scene, there are two and at least one creature should be larger than the Lion-manticore.

For Kickstarter I figured that I will need all of the characters that you have drafted thus far in sepia, bw, and color...I reviewed our agreement in November and understand that it will be $ each since I have already paid the $x design fee. It would be a big help if you could also do some of the parts in color...what I have below.

 

The ones I want are Dorothy, Jim, metal man, Wizard, the mushroom creature, and this drawing you provided...

 

I will send you the original as it has the attached images.

 

I may not be able to pay until Sunday or Monday - out of town.

 

-Bob

 

 

April 4, 2014

Dear Bob,

Thank you for your congratulations.

 Please see the modified character. I just bent the tops of the wings, it is better for the dynamics. 

Happy Easter wishes!

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

April 3, 2015

 

I like it Ruslan!

 

Try  this effect and I will choose one. Currently the wings and wing fins and head spikes are convex.  Redesign so they are concave.

 

In the scene the claws where shown will need to be longer.

 

If  you think it will work, you could add the forked tongue that you drafted in  Mr. Mushroom.  Good job and Happy Easter!

 

-Bob

 

 

April 2, 2015

 

Dear Bob, 

 

I created this evil creature. I think it will make an impression on the viewer, especially in color. Hope you will like it.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

April 1, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Thank you for your understanding. Okay, I will send an invoice for mushroom. Still, I'll do a new image separately and will send a sketch tomorrow.

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 31, 2015

 

It is up to you. I still owe you the same if its body comes out as a mushroom or a gargoyle...

 

You may as well figure out how it is going to look confronting the lion on the tree trunk - that is where the image will appear, not solo.

 

-Bob

 

 

Hi Bob,

 

I did its wings like insect's wings according your original concept.

 

I tried to adapt the new ideas such as the dinosaur's crown, dragon's or bat's wings for the mushroom/insect and it looks congested and dissonant. Your original idea of mushroom's hat can not be combined with the crown of a dinosaur. The idea of ??the mushroom comes into conflict with those creatures that you sent last time.

 

If you want to change the concept and to abandon the idea of mushroom/insect and make a new more powerful and malevolent creature - beast, it is necessary to make absolutelly new drawing / image.

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 30, 2015

 

 Hi Bob,

 

I want to complete the mushroom creature and then working on the scene to keep sequence. You have added new details and suggestions for this image. It will take some time. Will send it tomorrow.

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 29, 2015

 

Well, Ruslan, I surely like his head/face better. It is good and intimidating. So keep the face. I would modify the shape so that the crown sweeps back. I am attaching some dinosaur pictures with crowns for ideas that I like.

 

And I think you are on to something...not with the bug design, which I can't use, because I have giant bugs later in another  scene, but I think you are on to something with your lizard idea.

 

While I wanted a creature that looks like a mushroom, I can't envision it in this scene. The creatures have to look powerful and dangerous. Mushrooms are only dangerous if they are poisonous and then only if you eat them. Plus, neither image looks powerful or deadly with its stick legs - not your fault by the way.

 

So working with the current head and first body that you created, think gargoyle rather than lizard. This will give it a man beast shape. I am attaching a few images that I like. If you want to give your creature a wing-cape spread or make its shoulders flair out...fine. I am attaching some wings if you want to use that concept or winglets, but they should have sharp talons like in these images and obnoxiously powerful and unreal muscles.

 

If you want to save  some time, you can start doing the scene. It is here that the entire body, color, and musculature will come into play...why spend any more time on the creature when you would only have to convert it to another position for the scene.

 

I am also attaching some faces for  the lion. These examples are from images of manticores.

 

-Bob

 

 

 

 

March 28, 2015

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the modified creature. I did it more like an insect. It's certainly a strange creature. I also removed the tail so that it did not look like a lizard, although it was done previously for plasticity. I added two more eyes, but in my opinion, there is no possibility to focus on its facial expression. Maybe it would be better to leave the two eyes. What do you think?

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 March 29, 2015

 

You are very responsive. I understand. Thank you for the update, Ruslan! 

 

-Bob

 

 

March 27, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I was very busy these days and I could not working on the sketch.

Will send a new version tomorrow.

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 25, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the preliminary drawing of the mushroom creature. I've been looking for how to combine the different elements in this "nice" monster so that looks organically. Hope you will like it.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

March 18, 2015

 

This is a busy week. I need to review some of our earlier agreements and will get back with you. This might be a bit more than I have in the bank right now.  

 

-Bob

 

 

March 18, 2015

 

Thank you for the payment. Despite some moments I can see that the project is advancing well in general. Will waiting for your getting back for further work.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

 

March 17, 2015

 

Hi Bob,

 

I sent the invoice and am waiting for your reply to my last message (16 March).

 

What about the cover which I did for facebook?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

March 16, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I am glad you liked the illustration. I would like to add $ to the invoice for the additional color versions. Do you agree?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

March 16, 2015

 

Uhhhhhh....no I do not agree. You know that I am not an artist and cannot visualize something until I see it does not work.  I did not particularly think you were fair with your pricing on the BW drafts of this scene, but I paid it because, I do not want a few dollars to come between us. But in fairness to me, my explanation of the robin-scarecrow scene never changed. You kept putting the bird where you did even though my explanations continued to describe the same thing time and again. Finally, I described it enough different ways that you got the point.  So were all those drafts my doing?  I do not want to belabor this point. I paid you because I thought you deserved it, it is over.  Now lets not discuss this part any more. Moving on, however...

 

There is more work ahead and part of us working together is mutual frustration. Me not understanding why my words do not work with you and you not understanding why my brain does not work...so we both suffer .

 

If you go back to the beginning, I told you that I was not an artist and to expect multiple drafts because of my lack of art sense.

 

In closing, I appreciate your working with me, your ablilities, and willingness to please. If all goes well, we have three more scenes, then I will start Kickstarter. I expect to draw the interest that will allow you to produce signed editions. Furthermore, there will then be funding for 12 more scenes.  It is then that you will really be compensated for your time.

 

-Bob

 

 

March 16, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Okay, I will not invoice for the made additional color versions. l will send invoice as we agreed on March 10-11 ($ for the drawings + $x for color).

 

A large number of the compositions versions, shapes, color variations may exist. You can have some new ideas and desires and I create these different compositions, color versions, and so on. I can not immediately imagine what you want and what you like more. I create these works in my individual style considering changing your desires. But I have to spend much time creating new versions for you. Each version has the right to life and some of them I like more than the ones you like. I make changes where it is possible.

 

So my proposal: in the future I'll do some work: sketch, drawing, color image, this will include possible other two new versions according your new ideas for fixed price based on our previous agreements, but further changes (fourth, fifth, sixth and so on) will be charged separately. This will help to avoid misunderstandings and it is a normal practice. Do you agree? Understand, the number of versions can be endless, but each art work has its own uniqueness, originality and value.

 

It would be good if we get balance of our interests.

Ruslan

 

 

March 15, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I did not do a very shiny black top hat to show that this is not a new thing, but rather shabby. But I made a version as you would like. It is attached.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

March 15, 2015

 

I think this is a great picture and we can put it on our finished list!

 

-Bob

 

 

March 14, 2015

 

This is better Ruslan. What I think we need to finish it up is a vivid red on Robin Hood, where you now have orange. 

 

Then blend or morph that vivid red into the exact same orange color you have on the chest, but outward and onto the first three layers of wing feathers...those feathers closest to the ground as the bird hangs upside down. 

 

Leave the white on the lower chest and wings as it looks good. Also go back to the pics I copied you on and note the beak colors. I think a striking yellow will look better than what we have now as it looks pink.

 

Also, how about a more vivid green with the acorn cap. You did an excellent job with making this cap realistic and green will show the pattern better. At the top of the cap where it connects to the branch, make it brown and it will look like an unripe acorn.  This is coming along great.

 

 -Bob 

 

 

March 14, 2015

 

 What do you think about giving his glasses some shade? See attachment...

 

You will likely think this is crazy, but the SC will be in a few other scenes and i was thinking of changing up the color of his sunglasses in each of the other. It is Oz, what would you expect.

 

This is coming along really well Ruslan. Thx!

-Bob

 

 

March 14, 2015

 

Hi Bob,

 

I made the new color changes. Always a lot of color versions can be. I left a little orange on the border with white to avoid a sharp contrast on the birds.

 

Ruslan

 

March 14, 2015

 

Ruslan, this is excellent, for sure. The bird and acorn are perfect. There is one more option that i want to consider...show me a version with the top hat like the one that I have attached...a very shiny black. You can use the white band and the sheen. I will select one.

 

Also, you did an excellent job with the sunglasses...

 

Thank you!

-Bob

 

 

March 13, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Yes, I did such kind of robins that have slightly different shade than the red.  There are robins more orange than red. Now I have added more red. I also changed the top hat. It is better that the band was white to keep a color balance. Hope everything is okay now.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

March 12, 2015

 

Take your time. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 12, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Just finished the color illustration. Hope you will like it.

 

Ruslan

 

March 12, 2015

 

This is coming along well, Ruslan. The only issue I have is with the color of the birds and the hat - there is way too much drab and gray and robs the energy from your art.

 

I am attaching some pictures of robins that incorporate the colors, red, white, light grey...see what you can come up with. Also the little birds in the background, they need some red too.  If you want more ideas than the pictures that I enclose, look up images of red capped robins.  There is nothing wrong with a vivid red that melts into orange like the standard robin.  The picture has good detail, but it needs some color to bring it to life.

 

Also, the gray-dark-drab top hat in the current picture is too close in color to the robin's wings. That is just to much heaviness. I am attaching some images of top hats and am thinking of a.  I think a deep black with possibly a white band, red band, red feather, and a sheen would break the color. That way when the parts of the bird are grey and dull like its wings, then the "drab" will not be overwhelming.

 

I really like everything else. Good job...

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

March 11, 2015

 

Yes. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 11, 2015

 

My wife liked the sepia better also! 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 11, 2015

 

Hi Bob,

 

I'm still working on the color illustration and will send it tomorrow.

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 10, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I made 2 versions of the illustration: black & white and sepia. Then I will convert it in color. Hope you will like it.

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

 

March 10, 2015

 

FANTASTIC....

 

I only saw one ten second correction...too many of the corns are looking off to the side. I think they should be focusing on Robin Hood. It is OK that some look off to the side - and it is only the ones who look to the left or opposite the SC - The others are fine - excellent in fact.  For some reason I like the BW better. Great Job, Ruslan!

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 10, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

It is good you liked the illustration, but I like the sepia a bit more.

I did the corns looking at robins who sit next to them and fly.

I have already made some corns looking at Robin and attached the illustrations.

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 10, 2015

 

Bob,

If everything is okay, then I'll do it tomorrow in color.

 

At the beginning we agreed on the prices from $ to $ for an illustration, and the conversion to color $. For this illustration, I would like $ and $ for color conversion. When I finish the illustration in color I will invoice for everything.

Do you agree?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

March 9, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Thanks for the payment.

I'm working on the illustration and will send tomorrow.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

March 8, 2015

 

Certainly soundsfair.  If we can kick out four - five scenes so that the investors in Kickstarter can see the quality, we will both surely be winners!   

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 8, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

Yes, I try to do an outstanding works. I sent an invoice for these sketches and have already started  detailed drawing on the basis of the last sketch. Hope to complete and send it tomorrow.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

March 7, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

I made the changes. I also added more variety in facial expressions of the corn. Hope you will like it.

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 7, 2015

 

Yes I do - can you please make these changes...

 

The apostrophes have to face he sentences at the beginning of a sentence, and chase" the sentence at the end. Your apostrophes face only one way.

 

Also can you please change the text to read... 

 

"With his cold black eyes," whimpered the scarecrow, " that bird devoured my soul. Despite my terror, I wondered why Robin Hood's acorn cap didn't fall from his head." 

 

Thank you - I like the corn - great job with its facials...

 

 Also, what can we do to make the color version pop out at us - bright happy colors??? No response is needed. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 7, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Your link in last message does not open.

 

I changed the text. It is attached. First I will do a detailed drawing and then convert it to sepia, and after that to color as we agreed before, that is, there will be 2 versions. Then the image will have volumetric forms.

 

I did 8 different sketches and compositions and 9 modifications. Personally, I like the most the third version of the composition, because there is a good interaction between the scarecrow and Robin.

 

I would like to estimate only 7 sketches (starting from the second) for $, it will be in total $. It was a fairly large volume of work, but I estimate the work on the different versions at a reasonable price, taking into account large volume of the project.

 

Then I am going to start on the detailed drawing on the basis of the last sketch.

 

Thanks.

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

Certainly soundsfair.  If we can kick out four - five scenes so that the investors in Kickstarter can see the quality, we will both surely be winners!   

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 6, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the attached sketch. Let me know if everything okay and I will do a detailed drawing and then convert it into color.

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 6, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

My comments from yesterday remain unchanged. With those considerations taken into account the picture is good and was what I was hoping for from the start... 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 6, 2015

 

Bob,

 

I made the changes as much as possible. The top hat is corrected; corn is added, not need to add it more. The edges of the top hat can not be reduced more because need to leave space so that the bird looks good. Also it is a fragment of the top hat and it is not necessary to depict it literally, the composition is more important. I have attached two sketches next to be able to compare and just added the rest of the sentence. Earlier you remove a part of the text, so I thought that it is not necessary to show the entire text.

 

I am waiting for your reply and after that I will start on the drawing.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

March 6, 2015

 

Looks good - two suggestions -

 

Text - "With his... my soul," whimpered the scare crow. "Despite...from his head."  I have added quotation marks...

 

The new addition of corn.  Give them some features too. You are using great diversity - some can look up as if there is a bird overhead.  One can cover his mouth with the two leaves you have on the side of each ear, another can cover his mouth...I suggest covering ears and eyes...mouth is optional but cute in that it is like the three monkeys.

 

Good job!

-Bob 

 

 

March 5, 2015

 

 Dear Bob,

 

I made a new version to show a front view of the robin. Also I attached versions with different facial expressions and inverted images to look at it better. To do only the bird's head and put into the image as you suggest is undesirable because it should be the connection with the rest of the composition.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

March 5, 2015

 

Inverted images are attached.

 

March 5, 2015

 

Great Job, Ruslan, you nailed it!

 

Fyi - the hat for this scene is supposed to be a top hat. Perhaps it is, but I did not want you to spend any more time with redos than you have to.

 

If you can fill in some more corn in the background and restore the rest of the sentence, that will be the final stage before we go to color.

 

Thank you for your patience..

-Bob 

 

 

March 5, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Yes, it is a top hat. I have shown only a part of the hat to depict the bird bigger. I will correct the top hat a bit and add more of corn and will send the modified sketch tomorrow.

 

Thank you.

Ruslan

 

 

March 4, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I would like to repeat that if the bird is shown in a front view showing the two eyes, the bird will be directed to the viewer and the relationship among the bird and scarecrow will be lost. It would be impossible to show scarecrow for such position of the bird. Sense of this scene would be lost.

 

Of course, I can show only a scarecrow's hat and hanging bird looking at the viewer. But it will have a different meaning.

 

Frankly, I prefer my first sketches. There's more visible communication of the scarecrow and bird.

 

Hope for your understanding.

Ruslan

 

 

March 4, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

I read everything you wrote. I would prefer to continue trying rather than abandoning the idea.

 

The cap has to rest upon the bird's beak and cover one eye. The bird need not look angry, it can look rediculous. The scene is supposed to be silly. The bird is to have a silly or angry silly expression which terrorizes the SC.

 

I am attaching some more birds - the scans are terrible so I sent them as images and include them also. I think if you position the seagulls head where I circled in your drawing, it might work.

 

I understand you wanting things real to life, but the SC is not real, nothing about this book is real, so you have some room to make beaks bigger and make up for it with robin color.

 

If you tire of this one, we can let it rest for a bit and go onto another.

 

I have given your replies serious consideration, however, if we can get this scene right - where one looks at it and laughs, it will be a real winner.

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 4, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

This will not work if to show bird's head in the place where you circled. Unfortunately, you do not understand some things. It is not possible to move one element to the detriment of the whole composition.

 

Need to do a new composition to implement your new wishes and ideas. I'll do and send a new sketch tomorrow.

 

Ruslan.

 

 

March 4, 2015

 

Well I knew it would be extra work...for sure...If you want you can just work on the bird's face from that angle - cute - silly and when you get that where we are happy...then it might not seem as difficult...challenging. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

http://hawaiinaturejournal.weebly.com/hawaii-plants-and-animals-in-the-backyard-and-beyond/angry-birds-common-mynah 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

Bob,

 

You said that you liked the sketch and I do not understand why you attached the samples again. These birds do not look angry. Only those cartonish with the teeth. Also I depicted the robin and those entirely different breed. I did angry expression as possible for the robins. Besides, I painted beak open to show that it terrorizes scarecrow not only with actions but also sounds.

 

Once again I attached a fragment of the bird in the inverted state to show its agressive expression.

 

With respect to corn: I will add more in the final drawing.

 

So can I do a detailed illustration on the basis of the sketch: first sepia, then color?

 

Please let me know.

Ruslan

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan

 

The bird you sent me looks angry. Now see the attachment of the bird facing the audience. I want the illustration that you draw to show the angry bird you made, hanging upside down so I can see his whole face and acorn cap positioned as in the attachment covering one eye with the other eye visible. I do not want to see a side view of the bird;s face like in your drawing. Your drawing does not show one eye covered and the cap askew like in my drawing. Your drawing makes it look as if the bird is wearing a hat. That is not the image I want. If this is unclear we need to schedule some an online call where we can share computers and discuss this at the same time.

 

The only thing I can tell you is this. The scene illustrations will be a lot easier after this one.

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Your sample of a sparrow is not acceptable for these scene and composition.  It does not look impressively because the beak is not visible. To show bird facing the audience is not expressively because beak does not work for silhouette. This is a front view, but we need to show at least some part of the scarecrow so that not to lose correlation. Otherwise, the viewer is a scarecrow, and the bird will be directed to the viewer. This new idea is not acceptable for this composition. Scarecrow can not be shown in this case, only a part of his hat.

 

You wrote recently: These look great - Good Job! Did you change your mind? Your ideas sometimes come into conflict with the idea of ??the compositions and scenes that you want. There are certain laws in the arrangement of scenes of graphics clarity, relationships, integrity of the composition. I always do new versions, where there is such an opportunity.

 

Relatively online call. It is better to contact using e-mail, because there is a time to think about the answer.

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

Bob,

 

I corrected a cap in addition. It is attached.

 

Ruslan

 

March 3, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

I try to be encouraging and show appreciation for your efforts by complementing you as much as I can. I do this whether your images meet my expectations or not. When they do not meet my expectations, I recognize that it is not your skill as much as it is likely my inability to communicate.  So yes, I liked what you drew, but not enough to do a scene with it. Can you give the bird a larger beak. I wasn't suggesting you copy the bird, I was trying to show an example to clarify my expectations...with respect to the positioning of the bird, his acorn hat, and have it make sense as someone read the words that will accompany the picture.

 

 -Bob 

 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I made it. But it is robin with very small beak... It becomes like a woodpecker.. Please see the attached.

 

Ruslan

 

 

FORWARDED March 3, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I would like to repeat that if the bird is shown in a front view showing the two eyes, the bird will be directed to the viewer and the relationship among the bird and scarecrow will be lost. It would be impossible to show scarecrow for such position of the bird. Sense of this scene would be lost.

 

Of course, I can show only a scarecrow's hat and hanging bird looking at the viewer. But it will have a different meaning.

 

Frankly, I prefer my first sketches. There's more visible communication of the scarecrow and bird.

 

Hope for your understanding.

Ruslan

 

 

March 4, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

I read everything you wrote. I would prefer to continue trying rather than abandoning the idea.

 

The cap has to rest upon the bird's beak and cover one eye. The bird need not look angry, it can look ridiculous. The scene is supposed to be silly. The bird is to have a silly or angry silly expression which terrorizes the SC.

 

I am attaching some more birds - the scans are terrible so I sent them as images and include them also. I think if you position the seagulls head where I circled in your drawing, it might work.

 

I understand you wanting things real to life, but the SC is not real, nothing about this book is real, so you have some room to make beaks bigger and make up for it with robin color.

 

If you tire of this one, we can let it rest for a bit and go onto another.

 

I have given your replies serious consideration, however, if we can get this scene right - where one looks at it and laughs, it will be a real winner.

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the attached versions including a sample with exact location of the icons from the site.

I am waiting for your reply regarding the cover for Facebook.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Okay will back to the facebook image later.

 

I have increased the angry facial expression of the robin and added an eyebrow. I do not agree that the samples you sent show angry birds except birds with teeth. I've been looking for the position of the cap and if to change it more will be badly for the clarity of expression and will look ugly, I changed its form. Also I have attached image of the bird in an inverted position to see clearly how it looks. Understand, if to show the robin show even more angry it will be a bird of prey.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

These look great - Good Job!. I can download them and just use them as is right? 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

Bob,

 

I am glad you liked it. Of course, you can use it, but it is only a preliminary sketch. Let me do a completed illustration.

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

OK. We do not need this one in BW... 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 3, 2015

 

These are some of the real life angry looking birds...not sure they are angry, but  many of them look that way. The last attachment shows the look I am going for with the acorn....I do not care if the bird has its mouth open or not as long as it is angry and it looks like the text says. I like the great job you did on the last scarecrow and I love the corn...maybe have some of them crying - you can go back a couple layers of corn on the final as it is in a corn field.

 

http://hawaiinaturejournal.weebly.com/hawaii-plants-and-animals-in-the-backyard-and-beyond/angry-birds-common-mynah 

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACSiY3ndgceNmIjjQ5X31zHkOVR-mCE53prgfRsevxiwXcAiMX34-8Bg_18xThJVy-FRrARSeaTAAFP42xCfFMCM8CWSoSCdDlffXMeQ5VEZVwJpvbfFgmKhIJH6YITnemuB8RNMnL8ab_1NAAqEglGx6_1GLBdwCBEV1sWTCJykwioSCYxffj7wGD_1zETTJy_1Gm_1zQAKhIJFOElXL4VGsARRa-s7LYKuPoqEglFJ5pMAAU_1jRH7uuyjQkaHxioSCbEJ8UwIzwJZEQbigJ4ODgm3&q=image%20of%20angry%20bird%20with%20eye%20patch&ei=Efn1VNmqMqiwsASf_4LwDg&ved=0CAkQ9C8wAA#imgdii=_&imgrc=R8F4JhEmTZNiUM%253A%3BuhP_vm1uVkd_hM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdebmann.zenfolio.com%252Fimg%252Fv6%252Fp1064421190-3.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fphotography-on-the.net%252Fforum%252Fshowthread.php%253Ft%253D876366%3B562%3B450 

http://funforfuns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/funny-picture-angry-bird1.jpg 

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZ_dFWt3pDn55Llte0ZMfY1oopycMQIQ81h9a8NEngpPtapNvwaw 

https://www.google.com/search?q=image+of+angry+birds&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS616US616&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=715&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=FsP0VLaWJ8awggTE-YOoAw&ved=0CDYQ7Ak#tbm=isch&q=funny+photos+of+angry+birds&imgdii=_&imgrc=jUHC1mj0k1e1NM%253A%3B5YFzSl3q-rEwkM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimages.dailydawdle.com%252Fthe-angry-bird.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.dailydawdle.com%252F2011%252F05%252Fnational-geographic-presents-angry-bird.html%3B450%3B679 

 

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 2, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan, each one gets a little better. I like the  diversity of the corn's expression.

 

However, I fear you are missing  the whole point of the scene. The scene is to evoke amusement and emotion. All we have here is a bird hanging on a cap.

 

What I would like you to keep in mind is the words that will go onto this scene:

Robin Hood dug his feet into my top hat and hung from the brim upside down. With his cold black eyes, he devoured my soul,” whimpered the scarecrow. “Despite my terror, I wondered why his acorn cap didn’t fall from his head.

 

The viewer needs to see the expression of the robin as if he is sitting on the SC left shoulder. If you need to show only the back of the SC head to accomplish a full facial of the robin so be it.

 

If I frustrate you I apologize. I think the scene's will be easier after this. However, this one is critical and needs to be in Kickstarter.

 

-Bob 

 

 

March 2, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

What about the composition of the cover which I did for facebook and sent March 1?

 

One of the important problem is that the bird is in the inverted state, and it is difficult "read" its facial expression for viewer.

 

I attached fragment in the inverted state of the bird to show its agressive expression. I will search further opportunities to enhance the effect that you want to see  and will do a new sketch and send later.

 

Ruslan

 

 

March 2, 2015

 

The top link goes to a real bird that looks angry. There  are several pics of it; It looks angry if you hold it upside down. It then looks like an angry bird hanging upside down.

 

The acorn cap has to cover most of its head, sit cockeyed on its head so that only one eye shows. its protruding beak keeps the cap from covering more of hishead. This bird gives a good expression showing one eye...Then that sentence will apply. 

 

The second link has a number of faces...of angry birds

 

Do not worry with the face book image right now. We will worrry about that later.

 

Thank you for your patience!

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

March 1, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I made a new version of the cover for Facebook. Please see the attached versions including a sample with exact location of the icons from the site.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

 

February 27, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Please see the attached illustration. It is difficult to make the robin looks very scary, it loses its special features: small beak and eyes. This is about how to make sure that a good face looks angry. I did everything I could.

I did not know what to cover for facebook will include your portrait. You had to tell me about this in advance. Need to do a new composition of the cover for this purpose. I will do that in the coming days.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

Feb 25, 2015

 

I like this one. Very good. Can I get it in Black White - I am trying to do a website that way - like newsprint and want to see it that way, I have a program that will do it if it is difficult.

 

Also, can you send me the one with the original wizards but 851x315; I do not need this as BW - great job.  I wish we could find some scene to use that face in...maybe later on.

 

Thank you!

 

-Bob  

 

 

February 26, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I am glad you liked this version. I did it in Black White 851x315. It is attached. Please let me know is everything okay.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

February 26, 2015

 

Thank you very much, Ruslan. I need a different size for my website - 680x340 this nees to be in sepia and bw.  Great job!!!

 

-Bob  

 

 

February 26, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I did the cover in 680x340. Please see the attached.

 

Also I made a new version of the illustration.

 

If to do all bigger then the space will not be expressed. I hope you will like it.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

February 26, 2015

 

Thank you, Ruslan. Can you please get me the cover image in BW. It looks good.

 

On the scarecrow...the most important or the focus of that image has to be the robin staring into scare crow's eyes with looking fierce and terrible. If you read the script that you will put back when complete, the picture has to emulate the script. The SC is not terrified and the bird looks harmless. Plus one cannot see the bird's face/terrifying expression. If we need to loose more of the scarecrow's face and him looking outward, so be it.

 

Read the original wording of the scene and put it in the robin's face. Also can you change the expressions on the corn. So they are not all the same...indignant, pouty, surprised, scared...whatever...thank you.

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 25, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I adapted the book cover for Face Book. It is attached. I tried different versions and concluded that this one is more acceptable. It is good for dynamics of the composition.

 

But if you want to do as you proposed, I have to make a new sketch and drawing.

 

Please let me know what you think.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

February 25, 2015

 

This is good no-doubt. And the angle of his face is fine. What I would like to see though is the face of image that I sent to you instead of this wizard face. You can cut and paste just to give me an idea. If I like it then you can modify the image and if I do not, then we will leave it and you will have spent little time. This is very good though. I just really love that other creepy face...again, I do not care about it being perfect, I only want to get an idea...so just drop the features over the wizard's face.

 

I hope all is well with your family. Once we are done with this, I will need the agreed upon picture also as 851x315.

 

Please know that this is excellent craftsmanship. I am pleased.

 

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 25, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Yes all is well with my family now. Thank you.

 

Please see the attached. I put that face into the cover, but it looks not artistically and like foreign body. This is not intertwined into the rhythm and direction of tornado movement.

 

Ruslan

 

 

February 25, 2015

 

I like this one. Very good. Can I get it in Black White - I am trying to do a website that way - like newsprint and want to see it that way, I have a program that will do it if it is difficult.

 

Also, can you send me the one with the original wizards but 851x315; I do not need this as BW - great job.  I wish we could find some scene to use that face in...maybe later on.

 

Thank you!

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 23, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

I hope all is well with your family. I am not rushing you and you need not respond. I wanted to send this to save you time crafting the facebook picture as I was not clear.

 

The image has the face of the Wizard looking at the cabin. However I want the audience to see the full face of the wizard as attached. So to accomplish this, it is like the part of the tornado that carries the face of the Wizard must be further back/behind the cabin looking up at it. The drawing I sent to you shows the wizard horizontal to the cabin. If the tunnel is behind the cabin but further back, then his whole face can be seen.

 

Thxx for your patience.  Again - no rush - family first.

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 23, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

Thank you. I will back to you on Wednesday.

Best regards.

 

Ruslan

 

 

February 20, 2015

 

No problem; I will keep your family in my prayers. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 19, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

I am thinking about letting you design me a cover page for Face Book. The irregular dimensions are 851 x 315 (FYI: https://www.facebook.com/CoverPhotoSize)

 

So I can't use my cover photo, but you can likely use parts of it.  I am attaching two items. One is a sketch of the tornado which in this layout should work and the other is the face that I would like you to use as the Wizard. It is more the expression and eyes that I like, the beard and such that you have is fine. Also the debris at the bottom is fine and the cabin and dog are fine.

 

If it is affordable, I will do it. Otherwise, I might have to wait.

 

Thank you!

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

 

 

February 19, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Yes, I will do it. But, I am having urgent matters related to my family and I can not working on this within 4-5 days.

Will come back to that later.

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

February 18, 2015

 

Much better, but still a way to go.

 

I want the viewer to see the "terrifying" look on the birds face as it hangs upside down.

 

I deleted portions of the script before because I cropped the picture to make it larger when I printed. I want the script in its entirety as before.

 

If you need to show less of the scarecrows facial features in order for us to see the face of the upside down bird, then do so. The bird needs to be bigger so we can see some detail and if the only thing you show is the head, upside down bird, corn, and script, that is ok too. As you do the picture please refer to the description i wrote out - the scare crow needs to look terrorized not annoyed. If you are to show his face. The bird should look pirate-ish with its cockeyed acorn hat.

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 17, 2015

 

Hi Bob,

 

I made a new scene. Please see the attached sketch.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

February 16, 2015

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

I wanted to answer your questions. I will return my comments later today.

 

I was thinking that this would be a good horizontal picture - but you are right. The book is vertical.  We will do some scenes horizontal anyway for the limited editions...

 

I don't know about text on everyone, but there will be several that will have text. Also, perhaps for the book, it needs no text, but for the prints, it would help. Is this an issue? If so I would say add the text last...

 

OK...also in the prints, recall the dimensions that you gave me with borders...we surely will be adding those. I don't suppose you could add the text to the border?

 

-Bob 

 

 

 Robin Scene Critique:

Comments.

The corn looks great! This is a great start…

The head and body shown, can be changed to a close up of the head, hat, bird, and an expression or partial facial on scarecrow

The focus is the “terrifying robin” he has to have a cute/interesting personality/face.

Robin must hang from the brim to look into the scarecrow’s eyes.

If possible, some facial features or part of face of Scarecrow – a wide eye or something might add some humor-emotion.

Put a robin or two on a couple of the ears of corn, pecking on an ear, or one fluttering its wings, getting ready to land on an ear.

This will be a close up of the robin, his acorn cap, which must rest askew on his beak, hiding one eye. Also a scar…

 

 

February 16, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

This will require changes in the composition to show the scarecrow more in profile.

I will make a new sketch.

 

Ruslan

 

 

February 16, 2015

 

Thank you -  

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 15, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the attached sketch. Hope you will like it. I did not show outstretched scarecrow's arms, because it would be too wide and the book and illustrations have a vertical format. Please consider this as a preliminary composition sketch. I placed the text at the top, think such font is acceptable. Are you going to place the text on each illustration?

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

February 13, 2015

 

Checking in to see what your schedule looks like with respect to starting on some of the scenes...

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 13, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I placed a new Wizard's face into the cover. It is attached. Hope everything is okay.

What scene would you like to start?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

February 13, 2015

 

Thank you. I like. You can bill me - I know I owe you...You can start on the one I sent a few emails ago with the robin hanging upside down on the scarecrow's hat. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 13, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Please let me know do you agree with the prices?

$ - creation of the Wizard's image

$ - adapting of his image in the cover

 

Okay, I will working on a sketch to the first scene.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

February 13, 2015

 

Thank you. The billing is fine. 

 

-Bob

 

 

February 13, 2015

 

Bob,

I sent the the invoice. Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

February 9, 2015

 

Bob,

See the attached new sketch.

I had to change the composition and show a small part of the scarecrow

to rotate the bird closer to the viewer.

 

Samples you have sent made in very cartoonish style with large distortions of the forms, but we agreed on a realistic style. Besides the birds with teeth is a comic style. This contradicts your original ideas. Also need to save robin's particular forms.

 

I am waiting for your reply regarding the cover for facebook (sent March 1)

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

February 9, 2015

 

PS - his beard is twisted not braided...check out braided  https://www.google.com/search?q=braided+beard&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=912&tbm=isch&imgil=gtkLmy97mj89BM%253A%253BboyH67uEPwps6M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fgeneraldurandal.deviantart.com%25252Fart%25252FMe-with-braided-hair-and-beard-319264059&source=iu&pf=m&fir=gtkLmy97mj89BM%253A%252CboyH67uEPwps6M%252C_&usg=__7SPrr5nerE9YiGJTxX0QjD6MEg4%3D&ved=0CCsQyjc&ei=hNTYVJSgAsuqgwTJ5YLQDA#imgdii=_&imgrc=5UQvVJMnlz_PCM%253A%3Bp9g4OIQCijWQ1M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F41.media.tumblr.com%252F64088a85ad71adeaf4a7d660fca64522%252Ftumblr_mlv7cy4A3T1qejfhwo1_1280.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fblog.beardtoken.com%252Fpost%252F48928635672%252Fbig-braided-beard%3B583%3B720 

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

February 9, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

"Braided beard and fu man chu - these can melt or merge to within the storm clouds."

 

This can be done only at the borders of the tornado.

 

"I am curious what his eye brows would look like if they were raised a bit above his eyes and straight rather than with that downward small angle at the end of each brow."

 

I've been doing a lot of search sketches to find that expression. Such face is required for this composition of the cover and repositioning of the eyebrows will lead to the loss of the main point this character.

 

"Also, can we give his eyes some glint - spark - glow - or just emphasize-illustrate them in some manner to make them the predominant feature in his face?"

 

It is impossible to make because of small size. The eyes will not work, because there will be no graphical clarity of his look direction.

"his beard is twisted not braided" -  I will do it braided.

 

Sometimes your ideas create problems for the whole, sense and graphical relationship. You do not quite understand what result this may cause. When I see an opportunity to change something, I always do it.

 

Hope for your understanding.

Ruslan

 

 

February 9, 2015

 

I understand what you are saying and appreciate your honest feedback.

 

Not being an artist - I am sure what you say is so. However... not being an artist - there is always an off chance that I may come up with an idea that you might not think of.  As we say over here - Even a blind pig will occasionally fine an acorn.

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 9, 2015

 

Bob,

 

I did the braided beard. See the attached. I am glad that you understand me and always try to implement your ideas if it makes sense.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Feb 9

 

You are a good man to work with. Thank you. 

 

- Bob

 

 

February 7, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I made a new version of the Wizard's face. I think we should not aggravate it more, otherwise it will look ridiculous. Hope this version is acceptable.

 

Ruslan

 

 

February 7, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

Nice job.I think this is good. When you incorporate it into the cover I would like to see the following refinements.

 

Braided beard and fu man chu - these can melt or merge to within the storm clouds

 

I am curious what his eye brows would look like if they were raised a bit above his eyes and straight rather than with that downward small angle at the end of each brow.

 

Also, can we give his eyes some glint - spark - glow - or just emphasize-illustrate them in some manner to make them the predominate feature in his face?

 

Good job. Thank you for your patience.

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 6, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

The wizard is getting there. He is looking angrier but not creepy angry or scary angry or evil or malevolent or sinister or foreboding - As part of the cover, one's face would not linger long on his...but alas, you will have an opportunity to use it in a scene WHEN we make it through Kickstarter.

 

I am attaching some pics to help you along...perhaps the eyebrows slanting up - The joker ones I love, but their smile does not work on the wizard...

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 5, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

FYI - I still love the cover that I have and the incorporation of the Wizard's face in it. It is fantastic. What I am asking for now in no way takes from that magnificent cover.

 

This is a big deal for both of us and so this is why I am paranoid or cautious. You are an excellent artist and it is a pleasure to work with you.

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

February 5, 2015

 

Dear Bob

 

Please see the attached image. I made his braided beard is not too small to intertwine with the tornado, it is necessary to show the dynamics. I also made the version where the wizard stares into the eyes of the reader, but it looks badly. For this composition, the first version is much better suited. Hope for your understanding.

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

February 4, 2015

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

This wizard is going to be on the cover, in the tornado, staring out at the readers who view the cover. This will likely be the most important piece of art you do because, this is where people will stop, look at the book, look at your other art, and buy or move on.  So...

 

I would like to see a profile where the wizard stares into the eyes of the reader.

 

Is scary - this guy looks like he is having a bad day.

 

If you will review the description I sent, I believe it explained he had a fu man chu, braided beard, knife point side burns...

 

Best wishes

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 4, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

Previously you wanted Wizard looking at Dorothy on the cover. Now do you want to change it? I think it would be better if he would look at Dorothy as before. It makes sense. What do you think?

 

Ruslan

 

 

February 4, 2015

 

You might be right. But we will need a face shot of him anyway for some of the scene pictures.

 

Truth is I do not know. As long as his picture can make one shudder and curious that is probably what matters.

 

In either case, I will probably submit the covers to an expert for his opinion. There is too much riding on this piece.

 

Do you know anyone that you can bounce this off of?  Maybe it is best to do it both ways.

If we guess wrong, we both lose.

Here is where we are with things. After the cover, I would like you to draft between 2-4 scenes. I will have enough money to pay for those.

 

After that, I will run my kickstarter campaign and show off your scenes as samples of what people will get if they contribute to my project.

 

If I raise enough money I will be able to order 16 or more scenes and pay you for the signed limited edition prints that we discussed before.

 

If I do not make enough money, we are done...it is that simple so this is why I am pushing for a wizard on the cover to reach out and grab the reader.

 

Thank you for your patience - I know I am not easy to work with.

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 4, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Okay, I will do two versions of Wizard's face for the cover.

 

Ruslan

 

 

February 3, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the attached image. I made the Wizard's face more sinister. I would not want to do it too sinister, so it does not look ridiculous and ugly. Hope it is acceptable.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

February 2, 2015

 

Bob,

 

I got a blank previous message from you. Such thing was before.

 

Please answer the questions:  1. Wizard's image. Do you want me to do another version of Wizard's face, more sinister? No problem, I can do that. As for his clothes and forms is everything okay with that?  2. Book cover. You liked and approved Wizard's face in the cover. Do you want more sinister face of the Wizard for the cover, that is, need to do a new version of the cover?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

February 2, 2015

 

Wizard's image. Do you want me to do another version of Wizard's face, more sinister?

 

Yes - please refer to the description that I gave you. It was attached to the last email. It was a word file. It describes his sinister and other features.

 

As for his clothes and forms is everything okay with that?

 

I also sent two descriptions of his cloak. So the cloak who knows if it is ok because it will probably require color before I can say. I will say that it will require some flair but do not waste your time on it unless you want to review the description that I gave you about his cloak, and sparkles, and shimmer.  Plus it aught to have some life in it, like he is moving or the wind or magic makes it puff and billow.  But again this can wait.

 

The Wizard's form is fine and his face is fine and he looks like the face in the tornado...so I hope you do not charge me for this face. I will be glad to pay for the sinister face...

 

Book cover. You liked and approved Wizard's face in the cover. Do you want more sinister face of the Wizard for the cover, that is, need to do a new version of the cover?

 

Before you change the book cover, let's come up with the sinister scary face.  I would have thought that you would be able to work from an earlier draft before you added his face so that we would not need to completely redo the cover....only the face in the cover.

 

-Bob

 

 

February 2, 2015

 

This is the message I sent before. I want you to know I am not crazy. Send this back if you get it. I will now send you the message I sent yesterday.

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 2, 2015

 

What is the last message that you received from me. Briefly what did it say. The last thing I sent to you said that I thought I sent you the Wizard's sinister description before, but that I found it in draft folder.

 

If you did not get this note it is the last email from me and the one before would have had a description of the wizard.

 

-Bob 

February 1, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan, 

 

I do like this Wizard - this image is a fine NICE-kindly wizard image. In addition, I need something different for the cover than the nice man's face in a tornado. The cover is unique and needs a face of the twisted, ominous dangerous malevolent Wizard staring out from the funnel. With this the cover will be a show stopper...

 

In this story, the Wizard starts off being somewhere between wicked, sinister, intense, distrustful, arrogant, etc. We want him to have the kind of face that anyone would look at and think, I would not want to mess around with this character. I need this kind of Wizard for the cover.  We will use both faces in the art later.

 

Please review the description.

 

-Bob 

 

 

February 1, 2015

 

I apologize if I did not send a wizard description earlier. I thought I did but found one in my draft emails that should have gone to you. Sorry!   

 

-Bob

 

 

February 1, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I would like to clarify:

Wizard's image. Do you want me to do another version of Wizard's face, more sinister? As for his clothes and forms is everything okay with that?  2. Book cover. You liked and approved Wizard's face in the cover. Do you want more sinister face of the Wizard for the cover, that is, need to do a new version of the cover?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

February 1, 2015

 

See below 

 

 

February 1, 2015

 

Bob,

There is nothing in your message. Please send it again.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

January 31, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

Please see the attached Wizard image. I took as a basis the face from the cover. Hope you will like it.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

January 28, 2015

Dear Bob,

Please see the attached Jim image. I tipped up his hat down a bit.

I would like to send an invoice for the made Jim and Dorothy images. Considering the revisions, it would be $ per character ($ for both).

Regarding the future work: it would be good to do the black and white  characters in color and after that create the scenes. What do you think?

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

January 28, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

You can go ahead and bill me. But I would like you to do the Wizard next. I do not care about the other characters being in color yet. After you sketch out the Wizard then you can color him depending upon what you do with his robe.  After that you can do some scenes. Once you do scenes, you will have to color the characters for those scenes and each may change with their clothes. 

 

The Wizard was in the email that I did not include attachments and then did afterward.  Think about a scary or wild sort of expression on his face; it is possible that we will use that face in the cover replacing the one we have now.

 

-Bob 

 

 

January 28, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Thank you for the payment and feedback. Okay, I will work on the Wizard image.

 

Ruslan

 

 

January 25, 2015

 

Thank you,  he does look younger. Don't forget the front of the hat tipping it down a bit.

 

Thank you very much.

 

 

January 24 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I'm glad you liked the images. Please see the attached Jim image. I did him younger.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

January 23, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

It is very good. Thank you. The lips should be a little closer to the hairline, but that is a small thing. Good Job.

 

Are you still numbering your sketches/proofs - reminder...if you need it.

 

I like Jim too. My only thoughts are that with a heavier beard, he does look better, but he also looks a lot older. He is supposed to be 17-18 at the oldest. Your thoughts?

 

I did not mention it before, but since you are tweaking, I would like the front of his hat to turn down a bit. Here is a hat turned down. But this is turned down too much. But it will give you an idea. I like the shape of the rest of the hat so hold that. Good job!

https://www.google.com/search?q=images+of+cowboy+hats&rlz=1C2CHFX_enUS602US602&biw=1777&bih=852&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Um3CVKP9L4y8ggTxhoSwDQ&ved=0CDgQ7Ak&dpr=0.9#tbm=isch&q=images+of+men+in+cowboy+hats&imgdii=_&imgrc=jfNZVopC8sOtJM%253A%3BE8ANAKs1RDzwyM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fstylesixty.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2012%252F09%252Fcowboy-hats-for-men-27.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fstylesixty.com%252Fstylish-cowboy-boots-for-sexy-women%252Fstylish-hats-for-men%252Fcowboy-hats-for-men-27%252F%3B600%3B450

 

-Bob 

 

 

January 23, 2015

 

You never got this???

 

As far as Dorothy's clothes, She will be standing before a full length mirror, and it will be her reflection in the mirror that will present the front of her dress or its back and her face - as if she is posing and pondering if it is a good fit, the right dress, etc. will also send you a sample scene - no later than tomorrow.  I have attached a dress. you can give it some color or enhancements if desired. I was thinking that the light color might go well with her black hair.  We have to give her a "kiss" on her forehead and it can be partly hidden by her bangs. I am copying part of the story where she gets a kiss from the witch and the sample dress.

 

I am attaching a simple scene and facial expressions that you might want for the corn.

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Please see my comments... below...but first, I am not suggesting that you use Epson Stylus Pro 9900. I used that as an example of the extent or the amount of detail that I need to communicate to those that will want our prints.  What you suggested before and what we agreed upon before with the sizes is sufficient for me me. You are the expert. You know the market. So go with what you planned. I just need the exact details as I showed you in the examples so that I can present a very professional image in Kickstarter. What I am asking for is the exact name/type/weight of the paper-canvas or whatever and the same detail on the ink and it sounds like you already know that you want to use the high resolution printer not the Epson 9900, so this is the detail I need, clean and simple.

 

Here is what we agreed to before and I have no reason to change it. If you feel there is a need then let us discuss. "I would like to clarify: the original pencil sketches, drawings will be made on different density paper: sketches A-4 on the paper 80g/m2, pencil drawings A-3 on the paper 170g/m2 . Would you like to get the signed originals of these works made by hand as you wrote about this earlier? It is of great value.  What price would be acceptable to you? The next phase of work: the drawings made by hand will be converted into a digital images and finalized on a computer, completed in digital sepia and then in color. As for the prints: yes, I will print and sign on A3 on matte canvas with border for $ for the first 200 and $ for any after. And also will print A4 and sign on matte paper with border for $ for the first 200 and $ thereafter. It will be Giclee (digital fine art printing).1) A-4 prints will be printed on high-quality light-resistant matte paper, ink original Epson Claria. It is not advisable to use canvas for this size.2) A-3 prints will be printed with high-quality pigment ink or Claria ink. It can be printed on a canvas or matte paper. For A-3 can be used matte canvas, this texture is suitable for a given size. All the materials for A-3 and A-4 are high qualitative .I'll let you know more accurately kind and density of the paper when I print and choose optimal version. It will be more than standard A-3. The size is A-3+, 12,9 x 19 inches. The top and side borders are 2.5"and the bottom border is 3.5" for this size."

 

As far as Dorothy's clothes, OK - I will send you Dorothy's clothes. She will be standing before a full length mirror, and it will be her reflection in the mirror that will present her face and the front of her dress. I will also send you a sample scene.

 

 

 

 

 

January 22, 2015

 

Bob,

 

No, I did not get the attached images and info before. I will do Dorothy's image first.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

January 22, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I completed Dorothy's image without mirror to see the image wholly. I showed her with slimmer hips than the girl from the sample has. Hope you will like it.

 

Also I have attached an image of Jim with a new face.

Ruslan

 

 

 

January 21, 2015

 

Good, those details will give us a lot of credibility, thank you. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

January 21, 2015

 

Please see my comments... below...but first, I am not suggesting that you use Epson Stylus Pro 9900. I used that as an example of the extent or the amount of detail that I need to communicate to those that will want our prints.  What you suggested before and what we agreed upon before with the sizes is sufficient for me me. You are the expert. You know the market. So go with what you planned. I just need the exact details as I showed you in the examples so that I can present a very professional image in Kickstarter. What I am asking for is the exact name/type/weight of the paper-canvas or whatever and the same detail on the ink and it sounds like you already know that you want to use the high resolution printer not the Epson 9900, so this is the detail I need, clean and simple.

 

Here is what we agreed to before and I have no reason to change it. If you feel there is a need then let us discuss. "I would like to clarify: the original pencil sketches, drawings will be made on different density paper: sketches A-4 on the paper 80g/m2, pencil drawings A-3 on the paper 170g/m2 . Would you like to get the signed originals of these works made by hand as you wrote about this earlier? It is of great value.  What price would be acceptable to you?The next phase of work: the drawings made by hand will be converted into a digital images and finalized on a computer, completed in digital sepia and then in color.As for the prints: yes, I will print and sign on A3 on matte canvas with border for $ for the first 200 and $ for any after. And also will print A4 and sign on matte paper with border for $ for the first 200 and $ thereafter. It will be Giclee (digital fine art printing).1) A-4 prints will be printed on high-quality light-resistant matte paper, ink original Epson Claria. It is not advisable to use canvas for this size.2) A-3 prints will be printed with high-quality pigment ink or Claria ink. It can be printed on a canvas or matte paper. For A-3 can be used matte canvas, this texture is suitable for a given size.All the materials for A-3 and A-4 are high qualitative.I'll let you know more accurately kind and density of the paper when I print and choose optimal version.It will be more than standard A-3. The size is A-3+, 12,9 x 19 inches.The top and side borders are 2.5"and the bottom border is 3.5" for this size."

 

As far as Dorothy's clothes, OK - I will send you Dorothy's clothes. She will be standing before a full length mirror, and it will be her reflection in the mirror that will present her face and the front of her dress. I will also send you a sample scene.

 

-Bob 

 

 

 Description of Robin Hood and Scarecrow:

This will be the primary scene – I envision it as if one was looking from behind and beside the scarecrow, say over his shoulder. The scene would show the side of his head and the full features of the robin hanging upside down – and in the background, they might see these happenings ****

“While I was tied to the cross, Robin Hood dug his feet into my top hat and hung from the brim upside down. With his cold black eyes, he devoured my soul,” whimpered the scarecrow. “Despite my terror, I wondered why his acorn cap didn’t fall from his head. Before I could ask, he said. You want corn so bad. Me and my boyds will bury you in it...and do so merrily. Then he shouted, Boyds, make merry. Let the popping begin!

 

**** Info and Ideas for parts of the scene

  • Corn floating and popping could be in the background
  • Expressions on the faces of the corn kernels as insulted and still remaining on their stalks
  • Expressions on the faces of the robins.

 

This will give you enough info to help. What do you think about having the green highlighted text above as a caption in the art or on the border?

The Battle of Orville Acres

“The robin departed and in no time returned wearing the cap of an acorn. The cap rested on its head and partly covered its eyes. If not for its beak, the cap would have covered his entire head. So, the robin could see, but with great difficulty, and only when holding its head at a curious angle.

“Before I could ask the old robin about his cap, he said, the old robin who recently visited you, has called upon my services. I am Robin Hood. I take kernels from the rich and pop them for the poor.

“But you are the same boyd I spoke with earlier,” I claimed. “Of that I am certain. Even the scar beneath your beak is the same. You have merely donned the cap of an acorn.”

“You foolish scarecrow,” said he and waved his wing grandly at the great number of robins that returned with him. If each of these boyds were so hooded, would you, you who have no brains, be able to tell them apart?

“Since that boyd had brains, who was I to argue,” said the scarecrow with a whimper equal to the sorrow in his voice.

“Now, said Robin Hood, me, and my merry boyds will only feast on the fluffinuffinous of the finest kernels. And, scarecrow, next time you see Orville, you tell him Robin Hood was here! Now watch while me, and my band of merry boyds make merry!

“The doors of hell must have parted.” With a tremble in his voice, scarecrow continued in a whisper, “the robins swarmed like locust. All I could do to scare them was to yell and shout, which I did with great gusto.”

Hush your head! said Robin Hood. Your loud mouth is giving me and my boyds headaches and ruining our merry-making.

“Despite Robin Hood’s rage and the brutal tone in his voice, I continued to shout at those wicked birds and as I grew bolder, I shouted louder.” 

“Enough with the noise, Robin Hood said. Let’s fill his face with the corn he greedily hordes. Acres and acres of corn you guard and you can spare none…for a few little boyds? You are a wicked and greedy scarecrow.

“Robin Hood dug his feet into my top hat and hung from the brim upside down. With his cold black eyes, he devoured my soul,” whimpered the scarecrow. “Despite my terror, I wondered why his acorn cap didn’t fall from his head. Before I could ask, he said. You want corn so bad. Me and my boyds will bury you in it...and do so merrily. Then he shouted, Boyds, make merry. Let the popping begin!

“Perched on the cornstalks, those birds positioned those popping ears at me. While they brutalized me with bursting kernels, their cruel and vicious insults, debased and demoralized the ears of young corn. Those birds said terrible things,” sobbed the scarecrow. “Robin Hood yelled in one stalk’s ear, Your daddy was born in poor soil and is nothing but a no good hybrid.

“On another stalk, a large bird squawked, you ain’t but grits! Only fit for boiling.

“And another, Orville wouldn’t even feed you to his hogs!

“This went on for hours,” cried the scarecrow, “and…and….” He stopped to regain his composure. After a bit of pitiful sniffling, he wiped his nose on his sleeve.

“That stalk over there had a fine young ear,” said the scarecrow with a wave of his straw hand, “until a robin shouted that it was too ignorant to ever earn a tassel.”

“In the bit of time that I spent on my cross, I found that much of this field is young corn. And…, young corn bruises so easily,” said the scarecrow. “Those young and tender ears hadn’t been around long enough to toughen up their kernels. The boyds knew how to play them…how to get to them. When those birds spoke ill of their family seed, looked down upon their noble heritage, and mocked their upbringing, those poor young ears overheated all too quickly, and... popped!

“Turn a deaf ear, turn a deaf ear; you don’t have to pop. If you lose control, the boyds win….My words were lost in the winds of that war and despite my best efforts, those words of succor, rather than the insidious insults fell upon deaf ears.”

 “This field looked like a snowstorm. What you see now is not but the smallest part of the aftermath. Many of the kernels over popped and floated aloft…others hung in midair until the charm of field melodies carried them to parts unknown. Those with short fuses exploded like firecrackers, leaving not, but dust upon the leaves of their brethren.

 

 

January 21, 2015

 

As far as Dorothy's clothes, She will be standing before a full length mirror, and it will be her reflection in the mirror that will present the front of her dress or its back and her face - as if she is posing and pondering if it is a good fite, the right dress, etc.I will also send you a sample scene - no later than tomorrow.  I have attached a dress. you can give it some color or enhancements if desired. I was thinking that the light color might go well with her black hair.  We have to give her a "kiss" on her forehead and it can be partly hidden by her bangs. I am copying part of the story where she gets a kiss from the witch and the sample dress.

 

I am attaching a simple scene and facial expressions that you might want for the corn. 

 

Please see my comments... below...but first, I am not suggesting that you use Epson Stylus Pro 9900. I used that as an example of the extent or the amount of detail that I need to communicate to those that will want our prints.  What you suggested before and what we agreed upon before with the sizes is sufficient for me me. You are the expert. You know the market. So go with what you planned. I just need the exact details as I showed you in the examples so that I can present a very professional image in Kickstarter. What I am asking for is the exact name/type/weight of the paper-canvas or whatever and the same detail on the ink and it sounds like you already know that you want to use the high resolution printer not the Epson 9900, so this is the detail I need, clean and simple.

 

Here is what we agreed to before and I have no reason to change it. If you feel there is a need then let us discuss. "I would like to clarify: the original pencil sketches, drawings will be made on different density paper: sketches A-4 on the paper 80g/m2, pencil drawings A-3 on the paper 170g/m2 . Would you like to get the signed originals of these works made by hand as you wrote about this earlier? It is of great value.  What price would be acceptable to you?The next phase of work: the drawings made by hand will be converted into a digital images and finalized on a computer, completed in digital sepia and then in color.As for the prints: yes, I will print and sign on A3 on matte canvas with border for $ for the first 200 and $ for any after. And also will print A4 and sign on matte paper with border for $ for the first 200 and $ thereafter. It will be Giclee (digital fine art printing).1) A-4 prints will be printed on high-quality light-resistant matte paper, ink original Epson Claria. It is not advisable to use canvas for this size.2) A-3 prints will be printed with high-quality pigment ink or Claria ink. It can be printed on a canvas or matte paper. For A-3 can be used matte canvas, this texture is suitable for a given size.All the materials for A-3 and A-4 are high qualitative.I'll let you know more accurately kind and density of the paper when I print and choose optimal version.It will be more than standard A-3. The size is A-3+, 12,9 x 19 inches.The top and side borders are 2.5"and the bottom border is 3.5" for this size."

 

As far as Dorothy's clothes, OK - I will send you Dorothy's clothes. She will be standing before a full length mirror, and it will be her reflection in the mirror that will present her face and the front of her dress. I will also send you a sample scene.

 

January 21, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

Of course, I will send you the exact details on the paper and ink, but later. I'll Decemberide what exactly paper to use when at least one illustration is ready. Will need to do a test and choose the most appropriate materials.

 

Please attach the images which you meant again. Now there is no attachment.

 

January 20, 2015

 

 Dear Ruslan,

 

 You probably understand already what I want so forgive me if I am being a pest.  This is an example of what I am looking for.

 Paper Type:             S, M, L – Archival Cold Press Bright ; Large Canvas – Exhibition Natural Gloss

 Ink Type:  All prints are printed on an EPSON Stylus Pro 9900 using Ultrachrome HDR inks.

 

-Bob 

 

 

January 20, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I proposed you such style of the illustrations in which the colors should not be too bright to keep the overall style and so that the book not look like a children's book. Let's make at least one illustration of average difficulty to determine the average price taking into account possible revisions. Also it is necessary to make the characters in color to use in the future compositions.

 

The most important thing is what is the maximum size of the prints do you want to receive? Based on this, I will plan size of the originals of illustrations. At first we talked about the maximum size A-3+, 12,9 x 19 inches, the images will be with the fields. I was counting on this size and all the originals had planned to do for this size.  EPSON Stylus Pro 9900 prints large size, more suitable for printing of big posters. If to print the illustrations in such big size the originals should be made in bigger size as well. In addition, this printer has a lower resolution than the one I had planned to use. EPSON Stylus Pro 9900 has a resolution 2880 x 1440 dpi. I was planning to print A-4 and A-3 prints with a higher resolution of 5760 x 1440 dpi. It will be seen at a short distance. It is also desirable to use a matte paper for art prints to show the originality of the art and also usually such prints are signed with pencil on matte paper, glossy paper is not well suited for this purpose.

 

I can use EPSON Ultra Chrome Hi-Gloss2 pigment inks, but it will be more expensive. Those inks which I proposed (Claria inks) are also very lightfast. There is no fundamental difference in the quality and lightfastness between Claria inks and pigment inks. It is important to use a good quality paper. Regarding weight of the paper: 250 g / m2 - the maximum density, using of heavier paper does not make sense.

 

Let's finish with the image of Dorothy (what about her clothes?) and do the other characters in color and then I will do the first scene.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

January 20, 2015

 

Bob,

 

I would like to add that I am familiar with tests of wilhelm-research for many years. By the way, I made a request to EPSON in 1996 with the question of improving the lightfastness.

 

Ruslan

 

January 19, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

I hope all is well. I would like to start my Kickstarter program by March 1.

 

In order to do this, I will need a couple of things from you.  I will send you some of the scenes to draw in color, vivid colors...

 

These will go into the Kickstarter program and will represent a couple of the limited edition prints that will be available as rewards. This will allow people to see the quality.  And I will pay you of course, along the way.  Just give me the numbers in advance so I make sure I have the $$$.

 

This is our opportunity to impress the people who will support us.  I am impressed with  your work, and expect that they will be to.

 

My approach to this is that we will be providing very high class archival products.  I have to do a video where I really come across with some well written professional jargon.  This is where I need your help.  You have to be very exacting with what we are providing by way of the prints.  I have the details of what you sent before, pigments, Epson Clarion, etc.  It sounds fine and of high quality, but it has to be exact in both paper type, weight, ink, size, etc.

 

Here is an example: This is the detail I need. Also I am providing you a link to Wilheim Research. You likely know all of the info below, but it has to flow and I have to look like I know what I am writing and talking about.  Look at this link and either here or somewhere else get  me something that allows me to show the life of the editions we are providing.  Check out the center column on ink and paper. http://www.wilhelm-research.com/

 

Ultrasmooth is a heavier paper than Enhanced Matte. It is 250 g/m2, whereas Enhanced Matte is 192 g/m2. This is quite a difference, and when handled by prospective buyers the heavier weight makes a positive impression. (The 24X40" sheets are 500 g/m2, which is almost a cardboard type weight, and likely unsuitable for most fine-art applications).

 

 

Appearance and Image Quality

After making a number of comparison prints on Ultrasmooth alongside Enhanced Matte, I must say that they look very similar. Ultrasmooth is slightly less white and has an ever so small amount of additional paper texture. I don't see much of a difference in terms of black density, and colour saturation seems quite similar. The surface has a bit more tooth than Enhanced Matte and this means that it scuffs more easily. Prints on Ultrasmooth should have a sheet of tissue paper protecting them when they're in transit or in a portfolio with other prints, to prevent scuffing. This makes it less than ideal as a portfolio paper but doesn't present a problem with prints that are to be framed.

 

-Bob

 

January 15, 2015

 

You can send the original pictures - it is not size. Take a look at the attachments in this email which is what you have sent to me.  See how the last few words are not linked - they are not in blue...this corrupts the file and makes them unloadable. 

 

-Bob 

 

January 15, 2015

 

Bob,

 

I just opened the original pictures at Guru and everything works well. I attached the files as usual. No problem with that and previous message. I renamed them and attached them again. In addition, I uploaded the files to Workroom of the project. Let me know in any case.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

January 15, 2015

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

I LOVE Jim's and Chip's faces.  I will send you some info on the Wizard. and some other characters in the next week.

 

Then I will find you a few scene's to draw.  Good job!

 

I am not sold on Chip's leg...let us worry with that later

 

-Bob

 

 

 Wizard Description for Ruslan:

 

Angry Sinister Wizard

Then at last, we stood before the Wizard.

Tall, broad-shouldered, and powerfully built, the Wizard’s presence demanded ones attention. His face was equally alluring: unorthodox, as well as seemingly sinister, and ill tempered. A midnight-black braided Fu Manchu mustache gave his lips the illusion of displeasure. His braided goatee matched his mustache in length. Their combined effect gave the wizard an exotic flair and an air of mystery. Thick silver sideburns followed his jaw lines and narrowed to an ominous knifepoint a scant inch from his goatee. While I found his facial fuzz to be striking, I thought it gave his face a predatory look. Thick locks of thunderstorm grey still carried much of the original midnight- black hair that must have crowned his head as a youth. Swept back behind his ears, the darker locks of his mane battled the whitening curls that claimed the greater part of his head.

The Wizard arose and swept his cloak behind one muscular shoulder. Silver etchings rippled on the black material and in the midst of his toss, the cloak cast out swirls of silver sparkles. His throne rested upon a marble dais several feet above us and in silence, he gazed down upon us. His body, though hidden by cloak and robe, could not hide his powerful stature. Yes indeedie, the Wizard’s presence commanded attention. If not for his earlier angry and ugly attitude, he would make quite the handsome man.

 

Wizard has a purging and is a different nicer person.

By the time breakfast was finished, I believed that the Wizard was a changed man. However, I was not ready to count my gizzards. Next to his warm and genuine way, I liked his new face job. Good riddance to the braided Fu Manchu mustache, rattail beard, and jackknife sideburns. Now he looked like what I thought a wizard ought to look like, knowing, kindly, and a bit shaggy. Even more so, with his new look, he was like a real person rather than a closet creep, and that mysterious and malevolent cartoon character of before.

 

 

January 14, 2015

 

Greetings Ruslan

 

I like Dorothy.  The other three would not open.I tried on this computer which opened Dorothy and all others you hve sent me.In looking over the files as attached, some of the text was not hyperlinked.  Try that and we should be fine.

 

-Bob 

 

 

January 14, 2015

 

Dear Bob,

 

I have attached the pictures again and slightly reduced the size.

I am glad that you like Dorothy's portrait. Waiting for a description of her clothes.

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

January 12, 2015

 

Bob,

 

I made the drawings. They are attached.

 

Metal man

I have created his new face and a new original form on the head to do it unusual. I also created a new style with the pistons. These are rigid and more robotic shapes. If it is acceptable, it will require complete redesign of the image for unity of the style. This is a an artistic necessity.

 

Dorothy.

I created Dorothy's image taking into account your samples. However, there is some vulgarity in these samples, and the images are notable for "dark" character. Hope you will like Dorothy's image by me.

 

Thanks.

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

January 11, 2015

 

I will send a description of the Wizard.

 

It appears I do not understand the creation process. But I thought by you saving various drafts that they would be easy to build upon and modify. I do not want to pay for another drawing of the metal man. If you want to do some sketches of body parts, I will take a look and may like them better or - I tell you what. Do not spend any more time on metal man now. If the project does not get funded then none of this matters.  But ultimately, I want his face to follow that "interesting" email I sent yesterday.

 

I will send a description this coming week of the Wizard.

 

 

January 10, 2015

 

I like Jim except I throw out these ideas. You may incorporate in his face.

 

His head seems a bit small for his body.

 

Take a look at this guy's work. Filip Novembery - His character's faces are interesting. We need interesting. One wants to look at their faces.  This is what Jim needs. Handsome is good, but different, yet something intangible.

 

The Metal Man could use a bit more diversity in his body - I attach a photo.

 

See number two above for the face of the metal man.

 

After we knock these out, we can move onto the Wizard and some other characters.

 

I am sending you an image that I like for Dorothy. Use your imagination and I find her interesting in this photo, but we can't plaigerize.  After we get Jim and Metal Man done...they we focus on her. I am attaching some interesting female faces...just to get you thinking. Also Filip Novembery has some interesting female faces. I like the one with the long dark hair and red lips. Her bangs fit my story; she is seductive, alluring, a bit mysterious...

 

Thanks,

- Bob

 

 

January 10, 2015

 

Hi Bob,

 

I am glad you liked Jim drawing.

Let's go ahead. I am waiting for your suggestions.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

January 10, 2015

 

Hi Bob, 

 

1.

Jim's head covered with a hat, so it seems a bit small. I show the head so that proportionally Jim looks tall according to your description, but I'll do it a little more. Regarding his face, I will make another version.

 

 

2.

Metal Man. In my opinion now he looks pretty organically. Earlier you like this image. The photo you sent looks like gloomy mechanical robot and contradicts to the original concept.

 

 

3.

I like what you sent for Dorothy. I will do something similar, but my own. What about a description about her clothes and the rest?

 

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

January 10, 2015

 

We have to forget Dorothy's clothes right now. You do not need to start on he ; the picture was an idea for you to ponder. But work on her face if you want.

 

What I like about the metal man pick I sent you is the legs and the way that it seems to have more pistons, etc. I like the terminator look, but not scary - it appears a bit more futuristic; however, if you have any steampunk ideas I am open. I am not asking or needing major alterations...no hurry.

 

I think I sent you a description for the Wizard. Can you send it back?  We will be doing him soon. If you cannot, I can find it.

 

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

January 10, 2015

 

Bob,

 

Okay, I will work on Dorothy's face.

 

If to add pistons, etc. to the metal man, actually I have to change the style and make a new drawing, because we can not add the details in one place, it should be done in all parts. It will be a rigid, angular style. Do you want me to do a new version in a different style?

 

No, I did not get a description for the Wizard.

 

Ruslan

 

 

January 09, 2015

 

Hi Bob,

 

I am glad you liked Jim drawing.

Let's go ahead. I am waiting for your suggestions.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

January 09, 2015

 

I agree with going ahead. The problem that I am having right now is that everybody that took a two-week vacation over the holidays is draining our efforts. It will be another week or so before I can get back and focus on this. My main business is a management company. Plus we have had one person quit and we're having the interview. Not complaining, I just want you to understand why it may take me a little bit longer.

 

 

January 06, 2015

 

Ruslan,

 

This is pretty good. I might have a couple of small suggestions. Thank you very much I will get back with you later this

week. The body and hands look great I like the hair and the clothes. I might have a suggestion for the other stuff.

 

 

January 03, 2015

 

Hi Bob,

 

I made an image of Jim. It is attached. Hope you will like it.

 

Ruslan

 

 

January 1, 2015

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

I hope your Christmas was special and the new year brings you health, wealth, and happiness.

 

I have been working on some of the characters.  One character is Jim. He is a country-western sort of young man.  See the Description that I have attached. I am also attaching some western wear that you can use to sketch him and there is extra images in case we add it to scenes later.

 

I am also attaching a metal man image that I like a lot and when you have time hope you can modify your to some extent. I like this because it is more steam punkish and well...who knows why I like it.

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 26, 2014

 

I fixed the feedback. You were right.   

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

December  26, 2014

 

Ruslan, they both look fantastic.  I am very pleased!  I will dig you up some more characters in the next week!

 

-Bob

 

 

December 26, 2014

 

Bob,

 

Thank you for the payment.  I am glad you high appreciated my artworks. But you left 3 stars in Creativity in the feedback at Guru. There is a discrepancy between how you appreciated my work and such feedback. I do not agree with this and therefore blocked the feedback. It is thanks to my creativity you have received such images. I gave you 5 stars in the feedback at Guru.

 

I will wait for your ideas on the next characters.

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

December 26, 2014

 

I will check that out.  Something does not sound right.   

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 26, 2014

 

I fixed the feedback. You were right.   

 

 -Bob

 

 

December 26, 2014

 

Bob,

 

Thank you for the excellent feedback!  Everything is okay.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

December 24, 2014

 

Good - It is Christmas time - our way - not sure about yours - so no need to rush the completion. Merry Christmas. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 24, 2014

 

Dear Bob,

Merry Christmas! Yes, Catholics celebrate Christmas today in Ukraine,  and Orthodox January 7 in our country.

Please see the attached images. I Decemberided to add a cane to the scarecrow. Hope you will like them.

I will send an invoice.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

Dear Bob,

 

Hope you are well.

It is good that there are certain results for these characters. I am working on the approved cow and metal man in color

 

so that not to waste time and looking forward to the description and samples for the rest of the scarecrow. Much time has been spent on these characters and I would like to complete them and send an invoice for this work in the near future.

 

Waiting for your reply.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

We are not ready for color yet. I apologize. I did not know you were in a big hurry. The draft of the scarecrow's face is a good start. However, it needs some reshaping. It needs to be more angular or narrow, more defined, shapely. It also needs texture, and glasses. I am sending you some attachments to help with the face. Texture for the material, eye glasses resting beneath the eyes as in the art I am sending...once we get this, the body should be easy to finish.

 

Also the metal man needs to be in a larger size so we can see the detail of his anatomy as that is a big part of him unless the detail is there already and I can see it by magnifying it.

 

The cow will need longer legs eventually.

 

Having said that, I agree you have done a lot of work. I will pay you the $ each we agreed upon for the BW of the scarecrow, metal man, and cow. You may beill me now. However, I want to make it clear that more work is required before we move onto color and we have the BW to my satisfaction.

 

Merry Christmas and here are some attachments to help you finish up the face of the scarecrow.  Thank you for your hard work. Lets hope we reap the rewards in year 2015.

 

 

-Bob

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

I am throwing in a cyborg just in case you need more ideas. I am also adding parts of the body.

 

-Bob 

 

 

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

Bob,

 

Thanks for the quick reply. There is no hurry. But we are already working on these three characters more than a month. You approve first and then have a new vision, changing the previous requirements. Of course, this process can take a very long time and I can make tens, even hundreds of versions. But it takes my time. I have already spent more 30 hours. If we will work at such pace, work on the book can take about 3-5 years. As for the price. We agreed on $ for a sketch of the character, but you need a lot of revisions and adjustments. My rate is $ at guru. That's $ for 30 hours ($ per a character). Of course, I understand that it is expensive for you. However, I would like to revise the price taking into account that I made 20 versions of the characters, and will continue to work on. We agreed on the sketches, but you want to get more detailed drawings and it is logical.  But these are not sketches already. These are detailed drawings. So my suggestion is at least $ for black-and-white character. It will be three to four times cheaper than my hourly rate and a special low price for you. I agree on the price taking into account the large volume of the project. It is fair. Hope for your understanding.

 

I started working in color because you have approved the cow and metal man, but now I stopped working in color.

 

Cow. You have approved the sketch with corrected long legs. I have made cow's legs longer and made it exactly according to the photos of the breed. If to do legs even longer, then it will cease to be like a cow of this breed. So no need to do that. I only suggest to make a more detailed picture of the cow to match the rest of the characters.

 

Metal man. Sure, I'll work out the details. But in the size of the book it will be 3-4 times less than it is now and the details will not be visible, it makes no sense to add small details. Not need to do his look like a cyborg. It changes the concept.

 

Scarecrow. I will do that as you ask, but fine texture of scarecrow's face will not be seen in such size of the book.

 

I do artworks for you at a high level considering your vision and requirements.

 

Hope for your understanding and waiting for your reply regarding my conclusions and the price.

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

See my comments below.

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

There are no comments in your last message. What do you mean? Maybe it's some kind of bug?

 

 

December 23, 2014

Yes I answered below each line in what you had commented on. and bolded it  

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

Bob,

I have not received any comments yet. Please copy my text and insert your answers.

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

Forgot to mention I attached the corrected cow with longer legs in the previous message, but it is better not to do it more.

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

Bob,

 

I have not received any comments yet. I am waiting for your reply.

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

See my comments below:

 

Thanks for the quick reply. There is no hurry. But we are already working on these three characters more than a month. You approve first and then have a new vision, changing the previous requirements. Of course, this process can take a very long time and I can make tens, even hundreds of versions. But it takes my time. I have already spent more 30 hours. If we will work at such pace, work on the book can take about 3-5 years. As for the price. We agreed on $ for a sketch of the character, but you need a lot of revisions and adjustments. My rate is $ at guru. That's $for 30 hours ($ per a character). Of course, I understand that it is expensive for you. However, I would like to revise the price taking into account that I made 20 versions of the characters, and will continue to work on. We agreed on the sketches, but you want to get more detailed drawings and it is logical.  But these are not sketches already. These are detailed drawings. So my suggestion is at least $ for black-and-white character. It will be three to four times cheaper than my hourly rate and a special low price for you. I agree on the price taking into account the large volume of the project. It is fair. Hope for your understanding.

 

OK so I owe you $. and you will not charge me more to finish the metal man or scarecrow. However, I will pay the $ when the color version is done. Is this what you are agreeing to?  You have to answer yes or no like I am doing.

 

I started working in color because you have approved the cow and metal man, but now I stopped working in color.

 

Cow. You have approved the sketch with corrected long legs. I have made cow's legs longer and made it exactly according to the photos of the breed. If to do legs even longer, then it will cease to be like a cow of this breed. So no need to do that. I only suggest to make a more detailed picture of the cow to match the rest of the characters. OK, it is fine then - for now.

 

Metal man. Sure, I'll work out the details. But in the size of the book it will be 3-4 times less than it is now and the details will not be visible, it makes no sense to add small details. Not need to do his look like a cyborg. It changes the concept. OK, I agree with the cyborg.  but we will need his body detailed because we spoke about printing limited editions. So, if we do not work out the details of the body now, it must be done later, and then I will have to pay then.  Once you have the detail with hoses and such then when you shrink it, I understand it may be too small to see.  So...

 

Scarecrow. I will do that as you ask, but fine texture of scarecrow's face will not be seen in such size of the book. It may need texture for the larger limited editions later, perhaps shading will give it a textured appearance.

 

I do artworks for you at a high level considering your vision and requirements.

 

Hope for your understanding and waiting for your reply regarding my conclusions and the price.

 

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

The cow looks great! W e do not need a color drawing of it at this  time.   

 

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 23, 2014

 

Bob,

 

Yes, $ for now and $ when the color version is done.

 

Metal man.

Okay, I will do his body more detailed.

 

Scarecrow.

I'll show the texture as possible.

I will send these completed drawings and an invoice $ tomorrow.

If you will need something to change I will do it. 

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

December 22, 2014

 

Hi  Bob,

 

I'm glad you liked the scarecrow's face.

 

I would like to complete this character and made these 3 characters in color and generally go ahead and start working on the scenes.  It would be good to advance. I look forward to your ideas / comments on the scarecrow's body.

 

Thanks,

 

 

December 21, 2014

 

Good Morning Ruslan,

 

That is a very good scarecrow.  We have a bit more to do with him, but I need to think about it for a day or so.

In the mean time, I will send you the rest of his body since we are close with the face. Good job!

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 20, 2014

 

Greetings Ruslan, 

 

What country are you in and what is your native language. I have a translation program that may help. Your English is very good, but we can give it a try - both English and its translation.

 

Now on to the scarecrow.

 

Lets start with its face. I am attaching a couple of files. One has hairdo, and facial expressions, and the other has material of his sack-like face.

 

I will also include hat samples in this email.

 

The scarecrow has a burlap face,longer or more angular than fat and round. It has painted eyes, nose, and mouth. His hair is to be swept back (use your imagination) and his features should be painted so that he looks slightly perturbed or slightly annoyed. He will also be wearing a hat.  I have the body figured out once we get done with the face.

 

 

-Bob

 

 

December 20, 2014

 

 Dear Bob,

 

I am from Ukraine and my native languages are Ukrainian and Russian.

I understand perfectly what you write in English.

 

Please see the attached sketch. What you think about the scarecrow's head?

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

December 18, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

Please let me know what you think about the last versions of the scarecrow that I sent yesterday (these are preliminary sketches) and also the cow with spots? I am waiting for your reply.

 

Ruslan

 

 

December 18, 2014

 

OK - bad day at the office...alligators won't let go of me today. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 18, 2014

 

Wish you that everything will be okay. I will wait for your response.

 

 

December 18, 2014

 

The cow looks good; the scarecrow looks like a china man - no go. Sorry. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 18, 2014

 

Bob,

 

I made the scarecrow so that he did not look like a china man and left him graceful as you requested. These are attached.

I am glad that the metal man and the cow have already been approved.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

December 17, 2014

 

Bob,

 

I made a new version of the scarecrow taking into account your new vision with slim, graceful scarecrow's features. So you have more versions of the scarecrow.  I also put spots on the cow. The sketches are attached.

 

Ruslan

 

December 16, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

I modified the metal man as you asked. Please see the attached image. I also attached the cow once again which I sent you earlier. As I understand all is well with this character? As for the scarecrow. I do not see a link which you mentioned. Please send it again.

 

Thanks.

Ruslan

 

 

December 16, 2014

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=scarecrow+images&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=835&tbm=isch&imgil=GLDmSG-03n9OMM%253A%253BIO15WMxLbr_6QM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fsonnysplace.com%25252Fevent%25252Fscarecrow-contest-award-ceremony%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=GLDmSG-03n9OMM%253A%252CIO15WMxLbr_6QM%252C_&usg=__IxWsZYRdp1-sYEe5iIbph0FkowQ%3D&ved=0CDkQyjc&ei=VIOQVMreA4uoNtCtguAK#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=GLDmSG-03n9OMM%253A%3BIO15WMxLbr_6QM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fsonnysplace.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2014%252F09%252Fscarecrow.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fsonnysplace.com%252Fevent%252Fscarecrow-contest-award-ceremony%252F%3B672%3B448 

 

Here is the link for scare crow images. If you google scarecrow images, you will go to this link.

 

Metal man looks good!

 

Maybe give Jim a cowboy look. Did I send you info on Jim?

 

Dorothy should look beautiful and Native. Long hair

 

Eventually the Cow will need longer legs and will need to be a Holstein cow.

 

 

December 16, 2014

 

Bob,

 

I made a new version of the cow, although you have asked to replace only the head of the previous one. It is attached. Also see the new version of the scarecrow. Hope you will like it.

 

No, you did not send me info on Jim.

 

Ruslan

 

 

December 16, 2014

 

Thank you Ruslan. I like the cow better and when the time is right you can put spots on it like a Holstein which you can google some day. You do not have to split the cow in half - half black half white.

 

The scarecrow is nice art, but it is not far-out, or over the edge. It looks like an everyday boring scarecrow. Did you see some of the ones in the link. It needs to somehow look dapper, slim, graceful, and have straw hands. Perhaps you can give him a pumpkin head with a perpetual frown...sorry I am not more help. You can also give it some other sort of head, but, it's face will need to have painted features.

 

It cannot look cloddish, heavy, or like a person.  Think Nightmare Before Christmas.https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nightmare%20before%20christmas

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 15, 2014

 

There are three attachments. One is from an earlier email. The metalman is not bad, but I am looking for something far out,

over-the-edge... Please reread the description of the metal man.

 

 

December 15, 2014

 

Bob,

 

Please see the attached new version of the metal man. I emphasized some elements. Regarding the metallic hoses of woven brass and copper: it will not be very noticeable in a small size of the book. Also, I changed something in the attached version Scarecrow. Please let me know what you think about the new versions of Scarecrow and William as well.

 

Thanks.

Ruslan

 

 

December 15, 2014

 

The scarecrow seems the same to me and is more like a person than a scarecrow. Also, it is not over-the-edge. I apologize for not being able to help you other than tell you what I do not like.

 

I do like the metal man.  Perhaps a bit more broad in the shoulders and slightly bigger muscles in the arms and legs. Good job!

 

Check out this link. There are a lot of interesting scare crows. Perhaps you can come up with something....the more interesting ones are the creepier and more macbre.

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 14, 2014

 

Dear Bob,

 

Please see the attached sketches. I created new versions of the characters adding some modern style. Thus I did the 3 versions of Scarecrow and  two versions of the other characters. Please let me know what you think including about the new version of William I sent recently.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

December 13, 2014

 

Dear Bob,

 

Sorry, could not respond earlier because of unforeseen circumstances.

Please see the attached sketch of William.

Now it is clear that you want a classic realistic style.

Tomorrow I will try to send the next character.

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

December 9, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

Please let me know what ?? you think about the cow? This is important for further working on the characters.

 

Is such cartoonish style acceptable to you and what about  the coloring of William?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

December 9, 2014

 

Hello, how are you today. I looked at the cows, and I really didn't like any of them too much. So I went on the Internet and found some cow draw Ing that I kind of like. I will send them to you probably tomorrow. I am in a convention today.

 

No I do not like the cartoon, and I am really looking for for your detailed realistic/quirky characters. As far as the black-and-white

cow, the one where you split down the middle one is fine. Tomorrow I will send you pictures of Cow faces. We should just focus on the face. I know you can draw a body just fine.

 

Perhaps you can try the metal man. I gave you a more into this interesting description of him. I will send you the cow faces as soon

as I can.

 

 

December 9, 2014

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

I like the first one, but it must not be copied too closely as it is an item for sale. But it will give yo a good place to start. Do not worry about the black and white halves at this point. I like this picture because it would be easy to turn the mouth-features into a frown, smile, etc.

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 9, 2014

 

Hello, how are you today. I looked at the cows, and I really didn't like any of them too much. So I went on the Internet and found some cow draw Ing that I kind of like. I will send them to you probably tomorrow. I am in a convention today.

 

No I do not like the cartoon, and I am really looking for for your detailed realistic/quirky characters. As far as the black-and-white cow, the one where you split down the middle one is fine. Tomorrow Iwill send you pictures of Cow faces. We should just focus on the face.

 

I know you can draw a body just fine.

 

Perhaps you can try the metal man. I gave you a more interesting description of him. I will send you the cow faces as soon as I can.

 

-Bob

 

 

 

December 8, 2014

 

OK!   

 

-Bob

 

 

December 7, 2014

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

Not sure I mentioned it, but I had my book critiqued by a professional. She said my characters need to deviate drastically from the original Oz version.  This means the characters have to be imaginative, quirky, and brought into the 21st century.

 

Do you want to tackle this? As you may know, I am working with another artist or so, but I wanted to approach you first.

 

Scarecrow has to be a scarecrow, but unique. I think I gave you a good enough description of the Metal man for you to run with; the cow needs to be half black and white, split down the middle and not that you need to show that in a pencil sketch.

 

Let me know if you are up to this?  Once I get a go ahead on the characters, we can begin with scenes...

 

If this is not your forte', no problem...let me know.

 

-Bob 

 

 

December 7, 2014

 

Dear Bob,

 

Yes. No problem! I can do it. You will get the best art from me.

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

November 22, 2014

 

Will do. My needs have not changed - I will be back in touch sooner than later.   

 

-Bob 

 

 

November 21, 2014

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

These are great drawings. However, they do not match up with the character descriptions in my head. I appreciate you using your God-given talents and creativity as I had asked.

 

Let me do this. I received my first edit from the editor. Let me review that and see if she had any comments with respect to the characters.  She had a lot of comments overall so it will take me a bit of time to get through them.

 

The book is 200,000 words so this may take a couple of weeks. Also my son is having a baby on Weds and the next day is Thanksgiving over our way...so it may be a few weeks before you hear from me.  But...I am not setting our work aside. And I will be back in touch.

 

-Bob 

 

 

November 21, 2014

 

Dear Bob,

 

Thanks for the appreciation of my drawings. I think that made bright expressive images. Of course, it is possible to create a plenty of different versions of characters. Often the idea of one person about something and realization of this by artist in the material do not match, that's fine. The artist always does his personal  interpretation of the image. Please send me a clear description of what exactly you want to change. Let's finish these 3 characters. It does not take much time. After that I can go ahead and make them in color.

 

I imagine the volume of work on the edit. It would be good to work on the first scenes, taking into account the comments of the editor  if it is possible. Especially I planned the time to work on them. Hope for your understanding.

 

I'm happy for you and understand your feelings.  I also have a son.

 

Thank you,

Ruslan

 

 

November 20, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

Please see the attached 3 pencil sketches. Hope you will like them.

I tried to keep the likeness of the metal man with a classical character.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

November 19, 2014

 

Hi Bob. I sent the invoice. Okay, I will start working on the characters.

 

Thank you,

Ruslan

 

 

November 18, 2014

 

Hi  Bob,

I would like to know, may I start on the characters?

What about the rest for the cover, may I send an invoice for it?

Waiting for your Decemberision on the other questions of the project.

 

Thank you,

Ruslan

 

 

November 18, 2014

 

I will send you my last email again. It has a question or two. Please answer under my question.

 

Also, it you are doing a black and white sketch of the character so I can Decemberide on whether I like them to use throughout the book, before color and before sepia, how much is it per character?  I have provided you with a few.

 

-Bob 

 

 

November 18, 2014

 

Bigger is better - thank you.   

 

-Bob 

 

 

 November 18, 2014

 

Final Edit on Cover...can you fit this in discretely - and small?

 

“Jim, a farmhand where I live, was milking me and just about to finish up. From nowhere comes a sound like a train from Hades. ‘That be a tornado,’ Jim hollered. With no further nonsense, the roof over our heads disappeared, the hayloft blew apart, and both of us were sucked up easily as an ant by a vacuum cleaner. As the twister carried us off, Jim stuck the milk bucket handle in my mouth. With one hand, he held his stool and the other, my tail. What a ride!”

 

-Bob 

 

 

November 18, 2014

 

Bob,

 

Black and white sketch of the character is $.

 

As for the final edit on the cover. The composition is made so that it is impossible to add such text. The only thing that I can add the name of the author. Usually the text of the book is not placed on the cover, this is usually the name of the book and the name of the author / authors.

 

Ruslan

 

 

November 18, 2014

 

No I did not want text, what I wanted was a small drawing of the picture.  Sorry - the cow with a bucket and the guy holding her tail...it can be small and almost as if part of the debris kicked up from the storm.   

 

-Bob 

 

 

November 18, 2014

 

Bob,

 

I have included the cow and farmhand into the cover. Please see the attached image. Of course, they are small for this scale. Hope you will like them.

 

Ruslan

 

 

November 19, 2014

 

I do like the addition, Ruslan. Please bill me the $ to pay off the cover.

 

OK - you can start on the characters. If you have a more interesting looking scarecrow, I am receptive. I have not described Dorothy yet, and am open to that also.

 

Thank you!

 

-Bob 

 

 

November 17, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

It is good you like the idea of sepia and color versions, they complement one another. It would be possible to do illustrations such way: first make a sepia and after that color version based on that. I'll try to keep reasonable prices.

 

For example, if sepia will cost $, the color based on it will be $.

 

I would like to clarify: the original pencil sketches, drawings will be made on different density paper: sketches A-4 on the paper 80g/m2, pencil drawings A-3 on the paper 170g/m2 . Would you like to get the signed originals of these works made by hand as you wrote about this earlier? It is of great value.  What price would be acceptable to you?

 

The next phase of work: the drawings made by hand will be converted into a digital images and finalized on a computer, completed in digital sepia and then in color.

 

As for the prints: yes, I will print and sign on A3 on matte canvas with border for $ for the first 200 and $ for any after. And also will print A4 and sign on matte paper with border for $ for the first 200 and $ thereafter. It will be Giclee (digital fine art printing).

 

A-4 prints will be printed on high-quality light-resistant matte paper, ink original Epson Claria. It is not advisable to use canvas for this size.

 

A-3 prints will be printed with high-quality pigment ink or Claria ink. It can be printed on a canvas or matte paper. For A-3 can be used matte canvas, this texture is suitable for a given size.

 

All the materials for A-3 and A-4 are high qualitative.

 

I'll let you know more accurately kind and density of the paper when I print and choose optimal version.

 

It will be more than standard A-3. The size is A-3+, 12,9 x 19 inches.

 

The top and side borders are 2.5"and the bottom border is 3.5" for this size.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

Nov 16, 2014

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

I thank you for your information. So that I do not get confused, I am copying portions of your previous answers and seeking clarification.  Please answer yes, no, or explain beneath each question...

 

Hi Bob,

How do I see the working plan:

 

I will do consistently all the sketches and complete the scenes based on these sketches. Please let me know which style you prefer, sepia or color (if you want I can convert sepia to color illustrations as I wrote earlier and you will have two versions of the book.

 

I like the idea of sepia and color...however, you have the artist's eye, so any recommendations will be appreciated.

 

I will print out all the sketches and working materials and sign them including pencil originals on paper, as we agreed earlier. Sizes of works: original final drawings, working sketches and prints on paper: A4 (8,2" x 14,7") and A3 (11,7" x 14,5")

 

As I understand this, you will print and sign on A3 on matte canvas with border for $ for the first 200 and $ for any after.

 

 

You will print A4 and sign on matte canvas with border for $ for the first 200 and $ thereafter. If this is not correct or if there is different material used, please clarify.

 

I can provide high qualitative digital fine art printing of 200 prints of illustrations (25 prints in 8 copies, 8,2" x 14,7"). I will sign the printed illustrations and send them to you.  What the price would be acceptable to you per a print, signed and numbered by me? I will use quality materials: matte paper, ink (fade resistance under glass: up to 98 years, fade resistance dark storage: over 200 years).

 

Are both A3 and A4 printed on matte canvas?

 

What is the process for each - Giclee, lithograph?  Whatever it is I need to know.

What archival inks or color processes you are using; how would I describe it to another person?

 

 

It will be possible to try print the images on canvas for a larger size in addition. I think we should not print the images more than 10 "x 15". We can increase the size of the paper at the expense of the white borders.

 

 

 

This is the size of an A3 in inches - 11.69 x 16.53 inches

 

 

 

How much of a border to you propose to add to top?  Bottom? Sides?

 

Also, I appreciate your patience..., I am art ignorant...really ignorant...so...

  

-Bob  

 

 

 

Hi Bob,

 

How do I see the working plan:

I will do consistently all the sketches and complete the scenes based on these sketches. Please let me know which style you prefer, sepia or color (if you want I can convert sepia to color illustrations as I wrote earlier and you will have two versions of the book.

 

I will print out all the sketches and working materials and sign them including pencil originals on paper, as we agreed earlier. Sizes of works: original final drawings, working sketches and prints on paper: A4 (8,2" x 14,7") and A3 (11,7" x 14,5")

 

I can provide high qualitative digital fine art printing of 200 prints of illustrations (25 prints in 8 copies, 8,2" x 14,7"). I will sign the printed illustrations and send them to you.  What the price would be acceptable to you per a print, signed and numbered by me? I will use quality materials: matte paper, ink (fade resistance under glass: up to 98 years, fade resistance dark storage: over 200 years).

 

It will be possible to try print the images on canvas for a larger size in addition. I think we should not print the images more than 10 "x 15". We can increase the size of the paper at the expense of the white borders.

 

As for the hologram can you send it to me or say the size? I will plan place for this.

 

I think the shipping of all artworks and prints will cost about $ by registered mail. Please see the attached photo of wooden box in which I send my works, including oil paintings on canvas. By the way, would you like to have one or more oil paintings on canvas by me based on the scenes from the book? It would look impressive.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

Nov 14, 2014

 

Ok...so, here is the easiest way to do this. I would like to work out all of the details in advance. If I am unclear, just keep asking...

 

What I intend to do is have these completed illustrations printed these out on archival paper or canvas. From there I will create limited editions.  I will want you to sign as will I.

 

I plan to keep the first five, I want you to keep the next three, and after that I intend to give them away as part of a fundraiser to fund this book, and art, on Kickstarter.com.

 

This way, if the book does take off, you will make money on your limited editions.

 

I do not know how many prints I will need; it will depend upon how much money I raise.

 

So here are some questions.

 

What is the largest size I will be able to print these A4 drawings with excellent detail?

 

I am thinking that I may want some larger sizes for limited edition, but I do not know if I do? Perhaps you have an opinion.

 

I am thinking we sign and number the two inch border rather than on the back. Your thoughts? I intend to put a hologram on the border (prefer) or back to give it a professional appeal.

 

 

I want to have these printed on good quality paper/canvas stock so that they will last many years without fading. Do you have any recommendations?  Material? Giclee, lithograph????

 

 

Can you get me some prices for A4 and larger sizes if the art can expand to a larger size with crisp detail. Using archival paper or canvas? I need some different options so I can make a business decision.

 

 

It will be cheaper for me to pay for numerous copies wherever you are and have you sign them before you ship them rather than me shipping them to you, you signing, and then mailing back to me. Any issues with this?

 

 

Also, what will you charge to sign each print?  When pricing this, remember that I intend to pay and provide you with three printouts of the ltd edition out of my money. If this does not appeal to you then, say so and tell me what you want to sign each print and number it. 

 

 

Also, once I figure out what we are doing, I will need to understand the shipping costs better. If you are shipping me 25 or so at once, what will that cost?  I have no idea what they will weigh and we will want them insured.

 

 

If you can answer these for me, then I will have a better idea where to go from here.

 

If I am unclear,  sorry - bug me for clarity.  You can respond below each question if you like and I understand that this may take you some time to get me the answers.

 

Best Wishes,

-Bob 

 

 

 

 

Nov 14, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

How do I see the working plan:

I will do consistently all the sketches and complete the scenes based on these sketches. Please let me know which style you prefer, sepia or color (if you want I can convert sepia to color illustrations as I wrote earlier and you will have two versions of the book.

 

I will print out all the sketches and working materials and sign them including pencil originals on paper, as we agreed earlier. Sizes of works: original final drawings, working sketches and prints on paper: A4 (8,2" x 14,7") and A3 (11,7" x 14,5")

 

I can provide high qualitative digital fine art printing of 200 prints of illustrations (25 prints in 8 copies, 8,2" x 14,7"). I will sign the printed illustrations and send them to you.  What the price would be acceptable to you per a print, signed and numbered by me? I will use quality materials: matte paper, ink (fade resistance under glass: up to 98 years, fade resistance dark storage: over 200 years).

 

It will be possible to try print the images on canvas for a larger size in addition. I think we should not print the images more than 10 "x 15". We can increase the size of the paper at the expense of the white borders.

 

As for the hologram can you send it to me or say the size? I will plan place for this.

 

I think the shipping of all artworks and prints will cost about $ by registered mail. Please see the attached photo of wooden box in which I send my works, including oil paintings on canvas. By the way, would you like to have one or more oil paintings on canvas by me based on the scenes from the book? It would look impressive.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

Nov 14, 2014

 

If you can paint as good as you can draw, paintings would be nice - how much are 10x15 or what size do you usually deal in?

 

There may very well be more than 200 prints. How about $ for 100-200 prints and $ for each print after the 200?   

 

If we do print some larger ones on canvas - would we use a border? if so what would the size of the art not including the border be? And how much would these cost - signed and such?

 

I will likely have more questions. Later on I will need to know the names of the material so I can brag about the high quality.

 

Thank you for getting back with me. Hopefully this will be prosperous for both of us and get you some media exposure also.

 

-Bob 

 

 

Nov 14, 2014

 

Bob,

 

I agree with the prices.

It is advisable to do the oil painting 20"x 27" in size to work better on the details.

 

My proposal on prints with my signature on paper A3 + Matte Canvas (12.9 "x 19") using a border is $ for 100-200 prints and $ for each print after the 200.

 

Regards,

Ruslan

 

 

Nov 13, 2014

 

Dear Bob,

 

This is a very interesting project and saturated scenes. I'll be glad to work on it. We could choose the most expressive subjects.

As for the black-and-white and color images, I think if we have a sepia cover, the illustrations should be made in the same style. We can also make the color version of the book: the color cover and illustrations. Both versions would be interesting.

 

Appearance of the characters: it would be about 5 "x 8" image size plus border to fit in A-4 format. I would like $ for a black & white drawing of the character and $ for a color one. Hope this is acceptable to you.

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

Nov 13, 2014

 

Greetings...thank you for your prompt response?  What about drawing different scenes - a cost or am I misreading your email?    

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 13, 2014

 

I thought you are now interested in the estimation of the characters only. Think the scene would cost from $ to $ depending on the complexity of the subjects and the number of the characters and objects. Do you agree? Thank you.

 

Ruslan

 

Nov 11, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

Thanks for sending. I will look through it.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

Nov 11, 2014

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

I am attaching two files; content is the same with one in word and one pdf.

 

This is a sampling of what I am doing. The main characters in this section are the scare crow, cow, and tin man - Chip Chopper.

 

Green highlight describes the character and blue marks possible scenes...I will probably want somewhere between 16 scenes and 24.  This is but a small way through the book. I have marked a number of areas that might make a good scene, but you are the artist, know your talents, and so I am giving you free reign to put something striking together. I would rather have great than plenty.  So I have marked a lot of sections, but they may not make good art. You have to help here.

 

So I wanted an estimate for you to design the appearance of the characters. Once you do that then you would do a scene in BW and one in color...if one or the other makes no sense, then so be it.

 

I have left a certain amount of unmarked text. This is what I hope enough of the narrative to give you a flavor of what scene you might cast. You are welcome to more of the narrative if it helps.

 

Also, I would like a 2" border on these, 300 dpi; what size drawing do you recommend?

 

I would like the border to be wide enough to hold your signature, my signature, a stamp, date, etc.

 

I have a plan. I will clue you in as time moves on.

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 8, 2014

 

You have been great to work with. And of course YES, I owe you the $. I appreciate you going the extra mile and helping out on the color. When we are completely done with a deal or project, after you are compensated, if ever you think me unfair, you tell me.

 

I will send you some samples this weekend of characters and scene- or by Tuesday anyway.

 

You gave me an idea which may save us both a headache...I never thought about you getting these printed. Where does your signature go? On the back? I heard that these should be printed with a two inch border for a signature and possibly embossed stamp.  What do you say about this?

 

Also how much does it cost to get these printed on canvas or some archival material. I am open to suggestions and can possibly pay for some of this online and expedite affairs as we move forward.

 

Your suggestions will be appreciated.

 

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 8, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

Thank you for your appreciation of my work. I would like to clarify: I meant $ extra for the cover design and creation font (ie the rest $). I think it's a fair price, it took time, and also a cover design was not included into the initial price.

 

I have attached a sample with a composition on the A4 (8.2 "X 11.6") which I'll print on high quality matte paper. My pencil signature will be on the front below the image.  This way usually sign graphic works.

 

I'll find out regarding price for printing on canvas. I can provide high-quality printing on canvas. This may be in a larger size.

 

Waiting for samples of the characters and scenes.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

Nov 8, 2014

 

Fair enough!

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 7, 2014

 

These are really good and I will need a bit of time to make up my mind. I want you to invoice me $ for me to pay immediately. I still owe you a hundred. I will pay that in a about ten days when I make up my mind. I have to send your renderings off for feedback and there may be some minor change. So after I get an OK, I will ask you to make some minor changes and then pay you the balance of $.

 

Does this work for you? 

 

Also, save all of your sketches. What is the largest size I can blow them up to and still have them print and look excellent?

 

Once we finish the final version, and you are paid in full, I would like you to email me each sketch and the final version. I will have them printed out, sent to you to sign, pay you for that, and pay the postage to return them to me in USA.  Does that work for you?

 

I have to know what the postage will cost - do you have any idea what it is and how much time it takes and if it is reliable?

 

If I pay you  for each one you sign and there may up to 25 is that OK?

 

I will send you another email about the next project. I do not want to load down one email with too much. So read this and answer each question. Let us work this out and I will send an email shortly to tell you of the next project.

 

Thank you for the excellent work.

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 7, 2014

 

I have nine characters in the book that need a physical form to go along with my written description of them.  So I propose to send you the text describing them and then you create them in a drawing. I will want sketches to approve and for a finished product I will want a black and white drawing and the same drawing in full color. However, I do not know if I can use these by themselves. Perhaps I can if you make them striking.

 

Once we have the characters looking the way we want, I then intend to take scenes from the story and have you draw these scenes utilizing the characters that you crafted.

 

I will be glad to send you samples of both before you quote. One sample will have a character...the other sample will be a scene.  Ultimately, I would like a black and white and also a full color scene...

 

We will want to do the same thing as far as saving drafts, signing, and such.

Send me your questions...

 

 

-Bob 

 

 

Nov 7, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

Please see the attached book cover. I decided to change the font so that it match the overall style. Thus you have the original font designed by me specifically for this project, which adds to the cover extra dynamic rhythm. The font that I used initially would require additional charges for commercial use, moreover it is not very fit to the cover in style. Hope you will like it.

 

Okay, I will send an invoice at $. But later I would get $ in addition, because we have agreed on the black & white drawing only, but I had to do the cover design and I did it at a discount. Apart from that I did the original font and it was necessary to do. Hope for your understanding.

 

I am saving all the sketches. The maximum size of the cover pencil original is A-3. There are also smaller sketches in size (A-4).  I can print the sketches by myself on quality paper, sign and send them to you including the pencil sketches. Shipping will take 7-10 days. The price for the shipping will be about $. It is reliable, I even send oil paintings on canvas to my clients in US. I will do a reliable packaging.

 

As to the characters, please send me the description and samples.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

Nov 6, 2014

 

These are wonderful...all of them... but we have to get some color in there somewhere.

 

I am open to your suggestions and mockups.

 

For the longest time, the book was to be called So Toto, How is Dorothy...but the editor likes the Wizard was Odd.

 

The way you made it stand out with the lettering was also excellent and can be seen well as a small photo like for an ebook.

 

In thinking of a way to get some color in there, I came up with adding a subtitle to the room on the bottom. I was using word and therefore was unable to incorporate the text into your art, but set it at the bottom.

 

I am not saying this is the way to go - you are the artist and may have other ideas. I can see that if we do text at the bottom, it will have to be larger at the bottom.

 

Any mockups would be greatly appreciated but your art is most excellent and I have another project to talk to you about in the near future.

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 6, 2014

 

We like the Center one. Maybe leaving off the So Toto and making the title in red or some other color...this is a suggestion. Once i get the next batch I will forward to the editor...but any suggestions on your part are appreciated. Good Job. 

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 6, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

Thank you for appreciating my work.

Please see the attached versions. I changed the colors and adjust the composition.

I will be glad to work on another project. What will it be?

 

Regards,

Ruslan

 

 

 

Nov 5, 2014

 

I did not want you to go through this much trouble until I approved the final draft...but thank you. 

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 5, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

This pencil drawing needs to be modified to use for the cover. Please see the attached book cover. I made two versions.I had to do the drawing with the title to see the overall composition. So I made the cover design to obtain the relationship between the drawing and the name of the book. There is a space to place the extra text at the bottom of the cover if need be. Hope you will like it.

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

 

Nov 5, 2014

 

I do like it a lot. I like the Wizard changes all so. Is it possible to show me this in sepia? 

 

 

-Bob 

 

Nov 5, 2014

 

I like this idea. Please see the attached versions in sepia.

 

Ruslan

Nov 4, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

I finished the drawing.  Now I'm going to adapt the image for the text.   I will work with a text block and send the completed composition for the cover tomorrow.

 

Thanks,

Rusln

 

Nov 3, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

I'm working on the drawing illustration for the cover and going to send the completed picture tomorrow. Regarding the design of the book cover, this is an additional task. Must be other text there except the name "The Wizard Was Odd"?

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

Nov 3, 2014

 

I have secured the url thewizardwasodd.com and wizardwasodd.com; Also there is no copyright utilizing that name. -  

 

-Bob 

Nov 1, 2014

 

I like it. A lot! Let me circulate it. If you want to work on your coloration of the storm and rest of the scene, that is fine. I know I said black and white and maybe a splash of color, but a striking cover is the ultimate goal and the title has to be on it somewhere.

 

I also like the debris...really creative. Thank you.

 

-Bob 

 

Oct 31, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

I made the necessary changes and additions. Please see the attached sketch. I showed Toto as a dark silhouette on the window background. It will be more noticeable. In the final drawing everything will be more detailed, so please consider this only as a sketch.  Hope you will like it.

 

Regards,

Ruslan

Oct 30, 2014

 

Bob,

 

I am glad you liked the sketch. I would like to note about the current changes. I will show the turmoil of the storm that it would be causing upon the ground. It's okay. But no need to remove Dorothy from the window because it would deprive the cover active composition center, dramatic tension and meaning. The girl dressed in bright clothes and has a bright face on a dark window background. This provides the necessary contrast. In fact, Dorothy is an important compositional focus. Even the girl will look like a small white speck in this scale and size of the book 6 "x 9". Toto is less and will not work even if we make highest contrast. Therefore, I propose to show the dog looking down at the Wizard next to the girl. But it will look very small all the same.

 

Hope for your understanding and waiting for a reply.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

P.S. It will be interesting to work on other images as well.

 

Oct 30, 2014

 

I understand what you are saying. I would not have thought about the dog much at all. However, at this time, the name which may be changed is So Toto, How is Dorothy. I have shown your rendering only to a few people. Everyone was impressed but every one commented - if the book is about Toto - where is the dog...it should show the dog...

 

At any rate, you are the artist, but I liked the detail and found it impressive.

 

-Bob

 

 Oct. 30, 2014

 

Initially you wrote in the description that the dog and little girl should be shown. So I built the composition on these characters. Do you want to change the concept and show only the dog? In this case, I need to increase him to be visible in that format.

 

Ruslan

 

Oct 30, 2014

 

This is the problem when working with a non-artist. We don't know what the hell we want until we see it. Sorry. Yeah try what you suggested. But I really like the other elements. I am also open to creative suggestions.

 

-Bob

 

 

Oct 29, 2014

 

Hello Bob,

 

Please see the attached sketch. Since this is a pencil sketch.  All the details will be revealed more in the original image.

Hope you will like it.

 

Best regards.

Ruslan

 

 

Oct 29, 2014

 

That is pretty good.  Can you show the turmoil of the storm that it would be causing upon the ground. Also, instead of Dorothy in the Window, can you have Toto hanging out and looking or down at the Wizard scared as the devil...

 

Here is a picture of Toto, but he should be a little darker and have bottom buck teeth...however that is a lot of detail for the cover. By the way, your workmanship with the cabin and Dorothy is excellent...I will give you a shot at some other images down the road. I am also attaching the image of Toto

 

 -Bob 

Oct 28, 2014

 

I have a description of the Wizard's face below. This is the face I would like incorporated into the art or the hurricane.  I would also like the wizard staring at the occupants in the cabin.

 

Is it easier to work directly through email? Or do you prefer Guru?

 

His face was equally alluring: unorthodox, as well as seemingly sinister, and ill tempered. A midnight-black braided Fu Manchu mustache gave his lips the illusion of displeasure. His braided goatee matched his mustache in length. Their combined effect gave the wizard an exotic flair and an air of mystery. Thick silver sideburns followed his jaw lines and narrowed to an ominous knifepoint a scant inch from his goatee. While I found his facial fuzz to be striking, I thought it gave his face a predatory look. Thick locks of thunderstorm grey still carried much of the original midnight- black hair that must have crowned his head as a youth. Swept back behind his ears, the darker locks of his mane battled the whitening curls that claimed the greater part of his head.

 

-Bob,

 

 

Oct 28, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

Thank you for the awarding, I accepted it.

I will change the Wizard's face in the sketch and am going to send it tomorrow. We can communicate through e-mail as well.

Here is my address: rusvig@voliacable.com

 

Best regards,

Ruslan

 

Oct 28, 2014

 

Ok thx. 

 

-Bob 

 

 

Oct 25, 2014

 

Dear Ruslan Vigovsky,

 

Congratulations, I have selected more than one of you to work on this project with me.  Each of you created some feature, characteristic, or piece of art that I found desirable and hope to incorporate in either the cover of my book or elsewhere within the book. Therefore, together we will work through this project and I will collaborate with each of you if you are agreeable to the following conditions.

To move forward, I require that you agree to and understand these terms and conditions.

Irrespective of where we are in whatever stage or refinement of this project, you relinquish any and all ownership interests in your contributions-creations. This applies whether I use them or not and regardless of whether they are sketches, drafts, ideas, renderings, complete and not, as well as all finished projects.

In other words, as we go through this project, everything that you create as we work toward our goal of the book cover belongs to me.

 

If I end up using one artist's ideas exclusively, then this artist may add his creation to his portfolio and will be recognized in each book produced.

 

If the project is a collaboration, then all artists may use the final renderings in their portfolios if they show it as a collaborative effort.  With respect to recognition within the book, I will show it as a collaborative effort listing the primary contributor first.

 

Every sketch, idea, rendering, no matter how bad, please save it. When the project is over, if you mail these originals to me, signed, I will pay out a bonus to each of you covering the cost of postage and then some for your well-deserved help.

 

Upon the completion of the project, my payment to you in full shall conclude our business on that particular project.

 

If you are interested, I will offer other projects to you.  I have several characters in the book. Like the cover, I would like your visions of what they might look like. If we can find a fit, I will pay one of you  and I will not send it out to bid on Guru.

 

However, if I do not find a rendering suitable, it will have nothing to do with your talents, yet I do reserve the right to reject your submissions and find an artist or artists from any source to complete each project.

 

I also need a fantasy map of Oz. I have the details worked out and some sample maps that show the level of detail that I am seeking.

 

In closing, the terms and provisions set forth above, apply to the book cover project, and any and all subsequent projects awarded to you.  In other words, I own it, save the drafts until the end to receive a bonus and book and portfolio credit shall also apply.

 

-Bob 

 

 

Oct 25, 2014

 

Dear Bob,

 

I am glad and hope for the fruitful cooperation. Yes, I agree to these conditions and am willing to create the other projects.

 

Please award me the project at guru and I will start working on an illustration for the cover based on my sketch. Please let me know the exact size of the book cover.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

 

 

Oct 25, 2014

 

Thank you Ruslan,

 

I do award you the job, but I have to wait to hear from the others so that I can award all of you at one time. You are the first of three to reply.  So...give it a day.  The sizes are as follows

 

The first is a standard Novel size and the size after is the size for an ebook:

6x9 = 6x8.75

 

As soon as I hear from the other two I will award you all at once. I look forward to working with you!

 

-Bob 

 

Oct 24, 2014

 

Hi,

 

Have you already made a decision? I hope for a positive answer and to make a good cover for you.

 

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

Oct 19, 2014

 

Excellent! Thank you for going the extra mile! I am waiting on a couple more sketches and will be making a decision by the end of the week. So far!

 

Oct 19, 2014

 

Hi,

 

I am glad you liked the sketch.  The completed Illustration will look expressively. Waiting for your decision.

Thanks,

Ruslan

 

Oct 18, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

Please see the attached sketch. I did it in a format close to the traditional proportions. Because the tornado is the central theme, I tried to find a balance between the size of the house/cabin and the overall dynamics of the situation, as well as to show the images of Dorothy and Toto so they do not look too small. I showed an abstract face of a wizard, because only the nose is not enough for the image. Hope you will like this variant composition.

 

Ruslan

Oct 17, 2014

 

Hi Bob,

 

I'm working on the composition. Although I usually do a sketch when am invited or awarded the project. But this work is interesting and I decided to do it.

 

I have attached the size 1280 720 pixels. Do you want such elongated format (vertical or horizontal)?  Please let me know the exact size of the book cover in inches.

 

I am going to send the pencil sketch soon. Waiting for your reply.

 

Ruslan

 

Oct 17, 2014

 

Thank you very much, I really appreciate this. A book cover is usually taller and wider so use your best judgment. I am more concerned about the creativity and they aren't, we can work out the size later. Thank you again.

 

 

Oct 17, 2014

 

Thanks. Tomorrow I will send the sketch.

 

Regards.

Ruslan.

 

 October 16, 2014

 

If I like the sketch, you have a deal.

 

-Bob